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I'm from Hong Kong and I think it's unfair to compare the US with us. Hong Kong's just a city in China. If anything, compare with New York, say... ... or compa

by kenkam 16y ago

I'm from Hong Kong and I think it's unfair to compare the US with us. Hong Kong's just a city in China. If anything, compare with New York, say... ... or compare US with China. I know which one I prefer :D

muhfuhkuh 16y ago
"compare with New York, say..." Last I checked, NYC has nothing even resembling 1GBps speeds, not unless you're willing to pay for an OC12 line, which I think is in the US$100,000-200,000 per month.
- masklinn 16y ago
  > Last I checked, NYC has nothing even resembling 1GBps speeds I think that was his point: NYC has the same population density as HK (higher, actually, by close to 10%) but you'd be hard pressed finding an ISP offering 1Gbps for $30.
- srehnborg 16y ago
  OC-12 is a lot cheaper than you think. It's in the range of $5-15K a month depending on the location and carrier.
wisty 16y ago
... or compare US with China. I know which one I prefer :D 300kb/s download, 1Mb/s up. That's international. I guess the firewall slows it down a bit. No real shaping or anything, just certain sites are unreachable. Cost is quite competitive. About $7/month. Only problem was setting up a router, this province uses some weird username-scrambling dialer software (windows only, of course), and my real username (sniffed via Wireshark) happened to get a new-line+char-return scrambled into it. I had to brush up on XML, then hand-edit a router config file. Did you know that XML has really stupid new-line/char-return handling? Anyhow ... it's better than Australia (on the sites you can reach), and the ISP service is only a little worse. Big cities can get 20Mb/s, at ~$50 a month, but that's a premium plan.
xiaoma 16y ago
New York doesn't have its own currency, immigration, and customs. It's also primarily English speaking, as is the US as a whole. HK isn't just a city in China. It's already economically developed.

by kenkam 16y ago

muhfuhkuh 16y ago

"compare with New York, say..." Last I checked, NYC has nothing even resembling 1GBps speeds, not unless you're willing to pay for an OC12 line, which I think is in the US$100,000-200,000 per month.

masklinn 16y ago
> Last I checked, NYC has nothing even resembling 1GBps speeds I think that was his point: NYC has the same population density as HK (higher, actually, by close to 10%) but you'd be hard pressed finding an ISP offering 1Gbps for $30.
srehnborg 16y ago
OC-12 is a lot cheaper than you think. It's in the range of $5-15K a month depending on the location and carrier.

wisty 16y ago

... or compare US with China. I know which one I prefer :D 300kb/s download, 1Mb/s up. That's international. I guess the firewall slows it down a bit. No real shaping or anything, just certain sites are unreachable. Cost is quite competitive. About $7/month. Only problem was setting up a router, this province uses some weird username-scrambling dialer software (windows only, of course), and my real username (sniffed via Wireshark) happened to get a new-line+char-return scrambled into it. I had to brush up on XML, then hand-edit a router config file. Did you know that XML has really stupid new-line/char-return handling? Anyhow ... it's better than Australia (on the sites you can reach), and the ISP service is only a little worse. Big cities can get 20Mb/s, at ~$50 a month, but that's a premium plan.

xiaoma 16y ago

New York doesn't have its own currency, immigration, and customs. It's also primarily English speaking, as is the US as a whole. HK isn't just a city in China. It's already economically developed.