I heard this interview with him, and he came across better, though this might be down to the topic being a bit different. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cs

I heard this interview with him, and he came across better, though this might be down to the topic being a bit different. https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csy6c1 https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3csy6c1