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I can't explain this other than just personal preference, but I find Doom extremely frustrating in a way that Serious Sam wasn't. I loved play Wolfenstein 3D,

by mercer 7y ago

I can't explain this other than just personal preference, but I find Doom extremely frustrating in a way that Serious Sam wasn't. I loved play Wolfenstein 3D, Doom, and after a long lull, the new Doom games (Doom after Doom 3 and likely Doom Eternal). But for me the hell theme just doesn't work. Chalk it up to my evangelical upbringing, my dislike of horror in general, or whatever, the thematic aspects just don't work for me. It's immensely frustrating because I truly adore the gameplay, but I find it incredibly difficult to play a game where the enemies are demons of various sorts, and the environment is some kind of 'hell'. I have the same issue with the premium Souls-like games. I find it really difficult to play any of the Dark Souls or Bloodborne. I really love the gameplay, and I'd really love to see a Doom game that isn't horror-style Doom, a Souls game that isn't Souls-type-terrifying-enemies. Any recommendations? I wish I could get past the 'esthetics' of said games, but if I can't: what are my options?

spookybones 7y ago
Interesting. Maybe it's your upbringing. The hell aspect is a huge part of the enjoyment for me, including Dark Souls. You could try Sekiro, which is by the makers of Dark Souls/Bloodborne, but takes plays in feudal Japan. It is supposed to be amazing.
- mercer 7y ago
  Ha, Sekiro was the first game that came to mind as a possible way to play a 'Soulslike' without the demons. Although recently I found Nier: Automata, which scratches a similar itch with a more sci-fi theme (and a dash of horriffic creatures, still).
nine_k 7y ago
Hmm, I thought that being against the onslaught of hellish forces, and finally victorious, should feel good. (My upbringing is different, can't compare.) Maybe the Return to Castle Wolfenstein? Quake II? Or, well, Unreal?
- mercer 7y ago
  it wasn't so much the theme as it was, and is, the graphics. I can play horror-style games, but with a game like Doom the horror-style + gameplay is just too intense. I'd love a similar game with a less intense theme. For example, I can handle Nintendo-style cutesy graphics even if the gameplay is really difficult (Celeste, for one).
  - grawprog 7y ago
    Hmmm how about: https://store.steampowered.com/app/371180/Super_3D_Noahs_Ark/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/371180/Super_3D_Noahs_Ark... It's actually made with the original doom engine.
    - mercer 7y ago
      haha, that's hilarious. Positive reviews too?!
      - grawprog 7y ago
        I've heard it's pretty bad, or at least the snes version is, but it's one of those games with kind of a cult following. I have no idea about the steam version, though it says it has some improvements. As far as I know this is one of the only non-horrific/grotesque games made on the doom engine.
        mercer 7y ago
        That's a shame. I mean, it's not so much that I'm all hung up on avoiding 'non-christian' themes. It's more that I don't react well to horror stuff and a lot of the best games have a lot of that (Dark Souls, The Last of Us, Doom). I wish I could just not care about the surface-level skinning, but it affects me nonetheless. At least with horror movies I can cover my eyes or part of the screen!
billfruit 7y ago
May be lush jungles of Vietnam is more to your taste, then I would recommend Rising Storm 2, but it is multiplayer only.

by mercer 7y ago

spookybones 7y ago

Interesting. Maybe it's your upbringing. The hell aspect is a huge part of the enjoyment for me, including Dark Souls. You could try Sekiro, which is by the makers of Dark Souls/Bloodborne, but takes plays in feudal Japan. It is supposed to be amazing.

mercer 7y ago
Ha, Sekiro was the first game that came to mind as a possible way to play a 'Soulslike' without the demons. Although recently I found Nier: Automata, which scratches a similar itch with a more sci-fi theme (and a dash of horriffic creatures, still).

nine_k 7y ago

Hmm, I thought that being against the onslaught of hellish forces, and finally victorious, should feel good. (My upbringing is different, can't compare.) Maybe the Return to Castle Wolfenstein? Quake II? Or, well, Unreal?

mercer 7y ago
it wasn't so much the theme as it was, and is, the graphics. I can play horror-style games, but with a game like Doom the horror-style + gameplay is just too intense. I'd love a similar game with a less intense theme. For example, I can handle Nintendo-style cutesy graphics even if the gameplay is really difficult (Celeste, for one).
- grawprog 7y ago
  Hmmm how about: https://store.steampowered.com/app/371180/Super_3D_Noahs_Ark/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/371180/Super_3D_Noahs_Ark... It's actually made with the original doom engine.
  - mercer 7y ago
    haha, that's hilarious. Positive reviews too?!
    - grawprog 7y ago
      I've heard it's pretty bad, or at least the snes version is, but it's one of those games with kind of a cult following. I have no idea about the steam version, though it says it has some improvements. As far as I know this is one of the only non-horrific/grotesque games made on the doom engine.
      - mercer 7y ago
        That's a shame. I mean, it's not so much that I'm all hung up on avoiding 'non-christian' themes. It's more that I don't react well to horror stuff and a lot of the best games have a lot of that (Dark Souls, The Last of Us, Doom). I wish I could just not care about the surface-level skinning, but it affects me nonetheless. At least with horror movies I can cover my eyes or part of the screen!

billfruit 7y ago

May be lush jungles of Vietnam is more to your taste, then I would recommend Rising Storm 2, but it is multiplayer only.