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I don’t know if you played CS at the time, but there wasn’t a single soul who didn’t enjoy bunny hopping or had mastering it as a goal Besides the standard bom

by jiofih 7y ago

I don’t know if you played CS at the time, but there wasn’t a single soul who didn’t enjoy bunny hopping or had mastering it as a goal Besides the standard bomb maps, and the fun game dynamics created by this “bug”, there were hundreds of servers running surf_ maps and others that relied on hopping mechanics. The update threw a massive community in a tar pit.

aspaceman 7y ago
> It’s common for many gamers to believe that fun for them is fun for everyone I never liked bunny-hopping.
ergothus 7y ago
> I don’t know if you played CS at the time, but there wasn’t a single soul who didn’t enjoy bunny hopping Loads game Sees people hopping like preschoolers "No thanks. I'm good. " A bit of a self fulfilling statement there. I understand and appreciate that others found it fun, but such mechanics have always reduced my enjoyment, and I tend to avoid such games. Nothing wrong with either side of that, but one cant then claim the unanimity of enjoyment as meaningful.
- jiofih 7y ago
  Since that was the only way CS ever worked until then, what else would you expect? It was never marketed as a Rainbow Six.
  - ergothus 7y ago
    I don't expect ANY game where "run" and "jump" are options to make "jump" the primary form of movement. I get that "realism" is a silly thing to discuss, not because it's good/bad, but because it is meaningless to try and distinguish the "changes from real life we like/want" from "changes from real life that hurt our enjoyment", particularly when we all have different tastes. But all games that make gummy bear-style hopping over flat, unbroken land a common form of movement are personally visually jarring, and even as I welcome others to enjoy whatever games they want, I don't think my reaction is a terribly crazy reaction to have. ...Fortunately I'll likely die long before common human inhabitation of the moon, so I won't have to a reality I find jarring in this way :) (real life is jarring enough already. Too much realism)
    - jiofih 7y ago
      By that measure, Doom is a terrible game. No hopping, but people don’t move at 50km/h. It’s all about pleasurable game dynamics and realism plays an incredibly small role there.
GreenJelloShot 7y ago
> there wasn’t a single soul who didn’t enjoy bunny hopping or had mastering it as a goal Even someone who never heard of Counter-Strike could figure out that this is a false statement.

by jiofih 7y ago

aspaceman 7y ago

> It’s common for many gamers to believe that fun for them is fun for everyone I never liked bunny-hopping.

ergothus 7y ago

> I don’t know if you played CS at the time, but there wasn’t a single soul who didn’t enjoy bunny hopping Loads game Sees people hopping like preschoolers "No thanks. I'm good. " A bit of a self fulfilling statement there. I understand and appreciate that others found it fun, but such mechanics have always reduced my enjoyment, and I tend to avoid such games. Nothing wrong with either side of that, but one cant then claim the unanimity of enjoyment as meaningful.

jiofih 7y ago
Since that was the only way CS ever worked until then, what else would you expect? It was never marketed as a Rainbow Six.
- ergothus 7y ago
  I don't expect ANY game where "run" and "jump" are options to make "jump" the primary form of movement. I get that "realism" is a silly thing to discuss, not because it's good/bad, but because it is meaningless to try and distinguish the "changes from real life we like/want" from "changes from real life that hurt our enjoyment", particularly when we all have different tastes. But all games that make gummy bear-style hopping over flat, unbroken land a common form of movement are personally visually jarring, and even as I welcome others to enjoy whatever games they want, I don't think my reaction is a terribly crazy reaction to have. ...Fortunately I'll likely die long before common human inhabitation of the moon, so I won't have to a reality I find jarring in this way :) (real life is jarring enough already. Too much realism)
  - jiofih 7y ago
    By that measure, Doom is a terrible game. No hopping, but people don’t move at 50km/h. It’s all about pleasurable game dynamics and realism plays an incredibly small role there.

GreenJelloShot 7y ago

> there wasn’t a single soul who didn’t enjoy bunny hopping or had mastering it as a goal Even someone who never heard of Counter-Strike could figure out that this is a false statement.