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Unfortunately organic labeled food has no guarantees of being better for the ecosystem: https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom/organictext.html https://www.ocf.berk

by goda90 7y ago

Unfortunately organic labeled food has no guarantees of being better for the ecosystem: https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom/organictext.html https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom/organictext.html

CameronNemo 7y ago
This is off topic, but that website is designed terribly. I thank Mozilla for Firefox reader view in times like these.
- nightfly 7y ago
  It's a ~username website, it looks exactly as you should expect it to.
  - CameronNemo 7y ago
    I should expect it to have a background image that interferes with my ability to read the text??
epistasis 7y ago
While this matches everything that I know, and I have no reason to doubt the information on that page, i would love to have a concise summary like that with more citations than a single paper from 1992.
jacobush 7y ago
I'm probably too cynical, but I also expect anything agricultural in the USA to be fake, including much of the "organic".
- organsnyder 7y ago
  I trust the sourcing of my food as far as I can trust the vendor. We have a CSA (community supported agriculture) share with a local farm; despite them not having organic certification (pretty typical for CSAs in my experience—they'd rather build trust directly than via a third party), I know their produce to be much more sustainable than anything I could buy at a grocery store.
  - stevehawk 7y ago
    What makes it more sustainable?
    - organsnyder 7y ago
      IMHO, there are quite a few reasons small "organic" (certified or not) farms like our CSA are more sustainable: - Small scale focuses more on adapting crops to the land rather than adapting land to the crops (using fertilizer, pesticides, herbicides, irrigation, etc.) - Crop rotation allows the land to produce more yield in the same space without chemical augmentation - Reduced emissions from transportation (the farm is about 10 miles away) - Fresher means better taste, so we eat more vegetables—and therefore less meat; and we also throw away less food (especially since our CSA uses a points system that allows us to choose veggies we're more likely to eat) - Reduced packaging use - No treatments required to preserve freshness (I know someone who has a severe intolerance for corn who has to be extremely careful with fresh vegetables, as they're often sprayed with a corn-based preservative) - More genetic variety, since freight-tolerance isn't nearly as important

by goda90 7y ago

Unfortunately organic labeled food has no guarantees of being better for the ecosystem: https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom/organictext.html https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom/organictext.html

CameronNemo 7y ago

This is off topic, but that website is designed terribly. I thank Mozilla for Firefox reader view in times like these.

nightfly 7y ago
It's a ~username website, it looks exactly as you should expect it to.
- CameronNemo 7y ago
  I should expect it to have a background image that interferes with my ability to read the text??

epistasis 7y ago

While this matches everything that I know, and I have no reason to doubt the information on that page, i would love to have a concise summary like that with more citations than a single paper from 1992.

jacobush 7y ago

I'm probably too cynical, but I also expect anything agricultural in the USA to be fake, including much of the "organic".

organsnyder 7y ago
I trust the sourcing of my food as far as I can trust the vendor. We have a CSA (community supported agriculture) share with a local farm; despite them not having organic certification (pretty typical for CSAs in my experience—they'd rather build trust directly than via a third party), I know their produce to be much more sustainable than anything I could buy at a grocery store.
- stevehawk 7y ago
  What makes it more sustainable?
  - organsnyder 7y ago
    IMHO, there are quite a few reasons small "organic" (certified or not) farms like our CSA are more sustainable: - Small scale focuses more on adapting crops to the land rather than adapting land to the crops (using fertilizer, pesticides, herbicides, irrigation, etc.) - Crop rotation allows the land to produce more yield in the same space without chemical augmentation - Reduced emissions from transportation (the farm is about 10 miles away) - Fresher means better taste, so we eat more vegetables—and therefore less meat; and we also throw away less food (especially since our CSA uses a points system that allows us to choose veggies we're more likely to eat) - Reduced packaging use - No treatments required to preserve freshness (I know someone who has a severe intolerance for corn who has to be extremely careful with fresh vegetables, as they're often sprayed with a corn-based preservative) - More genetic variety, since freight-tolerance isn't nearly as important