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Tragedy of the commons. It only takes 1 person honking to delay everybody.
by JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
Tragedy of the commons. It only takes 1 person honking to delay everybody.
- sk0g 7y agoIt goes off a decibel Meyer that is triggered by multiple honks at the same time, as per the video.
- gouggoug 7y agoFrom what I gather this isn't the case. The signal resets if the decibel measured go past 85. It's unfortunately probably very easy to abuse, and some troll will. Also, here's a video made by the Mumbai police: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIgKvUPXeq4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIgKvUPXeq4
- ampdepolymerase 7y agoA more precise but more expensive method would be to use phase array mics with license plate recognition cameras and just create a nominal fine.
- paulie_a 7y agoI like that idea. But if deployed in Chicago make it a 5,000 dollar fine.
- pkaye 7y agoDo people honk a lot in Chicago?
- paulie_a 7y agoYes, especially can drivers. They honk at everyone "crossing the road legally at an intersection", they will honk at you. Everyone seems to think honking will suddenly get traffic moving even though the next three intersections are backed up
- chapium 7y agoNot sure that applies here since one person honking won't gain them any advantage. Very possibly a tragedy of some other sort.
- Polylactic_acid 7y agoYep. "Tragedy of the commons" specifically refers to when the individuals incentives are different from the collectives incentives. This case would just be trolling. You gain nothing other than the fun of upsetting others.
- Moru 7y agoAs a pedestrian individual with an air horn you gain access to the road.
- Polylactic_acid 7y agoOnly if you are close to the road while it is currently running in the direction you want. Seems like a difficult thing to abuse.
- hailwren 7y agoDoesn't it incentivize honking when the light is green for you?
- neurostimulant 7y agoThey're already hongking all the time. If they're now only honk during green light, that's already an improvement.
- paranoidrobot 7y agoI imagine that this might be a self-solving problem. A mob of angry people who now have another 90 seconds on their hands would likely deter all but the most foolhardy trolls.
- alpaca128 7y agoExcept the cars who currently have green light, which would be able to honk the crossing traffic into a permanent parking zone.
- anonsivalley652 7y agoYes and it's worse than that because it's kindergarten collective punishment. It doesn't consider an increase in property damage and deaths from people afraid to honk or who's vehicle owners will remove their horns, thinking it will lead to increased productivity. Instead, the police need to be less corrupt and enforce a ban on aggressive honking, and correct behavior to use the horn only in emergencies. It seems like another bureaucratic, half-assed, lazy, counterproductive panacea rather than fixing policing.
- 9nGQluzmnq3M 7y ago> It doesn't consider an increase in property damage and deaths from people afraid to honk Speaking from way too much experience of time spent on Indian roads, being "afraid to honk" is generally not anywhere in the top 100 problems I'd identify.
- brazzy 7y agoNo, because 1 person honking won't go over the loudness threshold.