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How do people magically get their hands on these various substances and know that they’re authentic?

latchkey 7y ago
You used to be able to just buy it on the open internet. Then the US govt. shut down the supplier (as well as many other substances).
mayniac 7y ago
>How do people magically get their hands on these various substances Some people sell psychedelics in person. In my country they're incredibly rare and I've never seen anyone sell anything except mushrooms or LSD. So the fallback is the darknet. >and know that they’re authentic? If you're buying from the darknet, user reviews. Other people make good guinnea pigs. Otherwise, there are reagents you can use to test to make sure you've got DMT. But generally people just smoke it and see what happens. DMT is very unique, if the substance you have is something else it will be noticeable very quickly.
flukus 7y ago
Illicit substance distribution is a massive, fault tolerant, self correcting and self routing network of individuals, you just have to know some people near the edge nodes. This is also why the war on drugs is such an abject failure. As for this substance I've only had what was described as a "child dose" and enjoyed the absolute tranquility, some friends have had bad trips on much higher doses but as someone that isn't a fan of psychedelics and didn't want any hallucinations I loved that small dose.
ada1981 7y ago
I highly recommend having all substances tested at EcstasyData.org It costs about $100 and a couple weeks but you’ll get anonymous spectral analysis of your molecules.
dcolkitt 7y ago
The compound in question was legal in the US until 2011. Bulk chemicals from Chinese suppliers are dirt cheap. I'd guess that both enthusiasts and entrepreneurs built up huge stockpiles before the ban went into effect. As for authenticity, my impression is that a huge proportion, if not most, of the exotic drug trade is mis-identified and/or mis-dosed. As others have pointed out precautions exist for the careful and meticulous. But let's be realistic, this does not describe 90% of recreational drug users.

You used to be able to just buy it on the open internet. Then the US govt. shut down the supplier (as well as many other substances).

mayniac 7y ago

>How do people magically get their hands on these various substances Some people sell psychedelics in person. In my country they're incredibly rare and I've never seen anyone sell anything except mushrooms or LSD. So the fallback is the darknet. >and know that they’re authentic? If you're buying from the darknet, user reviews. Other people make good guinnea pigs. Otherwise, there are reagents you can use to test to make sure you've got DMT. But generally people just smoke it and see what happens. DMT is very unique, if the substance you have is something else it will be noticeable very quickly.

flukus 7y ago

Illicit substance distribution is a massive, fault tolerant, self correcting and self routing network of individuals, you just have to know some people near the edge nodes. This is also why the war on drugs is such an abject failure. As for this substance I've only had what was described as a "child dose" and enjoyed the absolute tranquility, some friends have had bad trips on much higher doses but as someone that isn't a fan of psychedelics and didn't want any hallucinations I loved that small dose.

ada1981 7y ago

I highly recommend having all substances tested at EcstasyData.org It costs about $100 and a couple weeks but you’ll get anonymous spectral analysis of your molecules.

dcolkitt 7y ago

The compound in question was legal in the US until 2011. Bulk chemicals from Chinese suppliers are dirt cheap. I'd guess that both enthusiasts and entrepreneurs built up huge stockpiles before the ban went into effect. As for authenticity, my impression is that a huge proportion, if not most, of the exotic drug trade is mis-identified and/or mis-dosed. As others have pointed out precautions exist for the careful and meticulous. But let's be realistic, this does not describe 90% of recreational drug users.