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Can someone tell me where did Apple get all this new data from? Was it taken from OSM, bought from Here Maps or some other provider or just built on their own f

Can someone tell me where did Apple get all this new data from? Was it taken from OSM, bought from Here Maps or some other provider or just built on their own from sattelites and on the ground surveys?

vineyardmike 7y ago
It appears to be most-of-the-above: https://www.justinobeirne.com/new-apple-maps https://www.justinobeirne.com/new-apple-maps
GeekyBear 7y ago
Previously they licensed TomTom's data and tried to fill in gaps with data from OpenStreetMap and others. Now they have decided to build their own data set from scratch. >So a new effort was created to begin generating its own base maps, the very lowest building block of any really good mapping system. After that, Apple would begin layering on living location data, high-resolution satellite imagery and brand new intensely high-resolution image data gathered from its ground cars until it had what it felt was a “best in class” mapping product. https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/29/apple-is-rebuilding-maps-from-the-ground-up/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/29/apple-is-rebuilding-maps-f... That TechCrunch article has a good overview of their old and new mapping systems.
- rathel 7y ago
  Due to ODbL licence they can't mix OSM data directly with other data. Apple does use OSM data, but only in some countries (Belarus for example IIRC), as allowed by https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidel...
  - rmc 7y ago
    Due to ODbL licence they can't mix OSM data directly with other data. The ODbL has no restrictions on mixing, unlike the creative commons “no derivies” clause. The ODbL just says that you need to share those changes, and that new database, with everyone else. If we give you OSM data, you should give us back the data you combine with it. If the other dataset doesn't allow that, then the restriction is from that dataset's licence, not from OSM's ODbL.
- maxerickson 7y ago
  I don't have any insight into how they are choosing, but they are investing in improving OpenStreetMap in many places: https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues
  - GeekyBear 7y ago
    Here, Bing, and Apple have all pitched in to help OpenStreetMaps improve their processes and their dataset.
    - maxerickson 7y ago
      What's Here done? Microsoft has long made Bing imagery available for tracing, it's only recently that they have done much with data. None of the companies have really touched "processes", because OpenStreetMap doesn't really have any formal processes.

vineyardmike 7y ago

It appears to be most-of-the-above: https://www.justinobeirne.com/new-apple-maps https://www.justinobeirne.com/new-apple-maps

GeekyBear 7y ago

Previously they licensed TomTom's data and tried to fill in gaps with data from OpenStreetMap and others. Now they have decided to build their own data set from scratch. >So a new effort was created to begin generating its own base maps, the very lowest building block of any really good mapping system. After that, Apple would begin layering on living location data, high-resolution satellite imagery and brand new intensely high-resolution image data gathered from its ground cars until it had what it felt was a “best in class” mapping product. https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/29/apple-is-rebuilding-maps-from-the-ground-up/ https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/29/apple-is-rebuilding-maps-f... That TechCrunch article has a good overview of their old and new mapping systems.

rathel 7y ago
Due to ODbL licence they can't mix OSM data directly with other data. Apple does use OSM data, but only in some countries (Belarus for example IIRC), as allowed by https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidel...
- rmc 7y ago
  Due to ODbL licence they can't mix OSM data directly with other data. The ODbL has no restrictions on mixing, unlike the creative commons “no derivies” clause. The ODbL just says that you need to share those changes, and that new database, with everyone else. If we give you OSM data, you should give us back the data you combine with it. If the other dataset doesn't allow that, then the restriction is from that dataset's licence, not from OSM's ODbL.
maxerickson 7y ago
I don't have any insight into how they are choosing, but they are investing in improving OpenStreetMap in many places: https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues https://github.com/osmlab/appledata/issues
- GeekyBear 7y ago
  Here, Bing, and Apple have all pitched in to help OpenStreetMaps improve their processes and their dataset.
  - maxerickson 7y ago
    What's Here done? Microsoft has long made Bing imagery available for tracing, it's only recently that they have done much with data. None of the companies have really touched "processes", because OpenStreetMap doesn't really have any formal processes.