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I wonder what other happenings in the U.S. were eclipsed by 9/11.

jhbadger 7y ago
The Alt-rock band They Might Be Giants had a long awaited album "Mink Car" released on the unfortunate date of September 11, 2001.
- eCa 7y ago
  Same with Bob Dylan’s Love and Theft.
- CapricornNoble 7y ago
  It was also the release date of Slayer's ominously-titled "God Hates Us All". https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Slayer/God_Hates_Us_All/224 https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Slayer/God_Hates_Us_Al...
unlinked_dll 7y ago
Chandra Levy's murder was front page news until the attacks https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Levy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Levy Also a good podcast episode about the case and investigation https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/murdered-chandra-levy/ https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/murdered-chandra-levy/
- casefields 7y ago
  No wonder I never heard that they solved it: >Following a series of investigative reports by The Washington Post in 2008, the MPD followed up and finally obtained a warrant, on March 3, 2009, to arrest Ingmar Guandique, the illegal immigrant from El Salvador identified and dismissed by the MPDC eight years earlier.
  - kibibyte 7y ago
    It's still unsolved. The main witness on Guandique's trial was found to be very unreliable, so the case was dismissed.
  - RedComet 7y ago
    Sounds like a bad hombre.
yaakov34 7y ago
I remember hearing a joke around that time - "Who is the happiest man in America right now? - Gary Condit." Condit was being tossed and gored in the media for his supposed role in the disappearance of the intern with whom he had an affair. It was all forgotten pretty quickly that September. Apparently he had nothing to do with the intern's disappearance and murder, but it took years for that to be established.
lioeters 7y ago
On September 10, 2001, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld revealed that the Pentagon had lost $2.3 trillion from its budget. That figure has now grown to $6.5 trillion and counting.
- jbuzbee 7y ago
  https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rumsfeld-says-2-3-trillion-missing-from-the-pentagon.165/ https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rumsfeld-says-2-3-...
  - yesenadam 7y ago
    Thank you. That's a great site!
  - 34679 7y ago
    I just read it for the first time and was surprised to learn that he was announcing massive cuts to military spending, with base closures, consolidating departments between branches, eliminating acquisition teams, and outsourcing things like janitorial work. That, and better tracking of where the money is going. It was actually a refreshing speech and the exact opposite of the warmonger Rumsfeld would come to be known as. https://web.archive.org/web/20100301161721/http://www.defense.gov/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=430 https://web.archive.org/web/20100301161721/http://www.defens... "There's a myth, sort of a legend, that money enters this building and disappears, like a bright light into a black hole, never to be seen again. In truth, there is a real person at the other end of every dollar, a real person who's in charge of every domain, and that means that there will be real consequences from, and real resistance to, fundamental change."
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dpiers 7y ago
Donnie Darko’s release in October 2001 was very quiet after they pulled all advertising because a plane crash plays a prominent role in the plot.
- catalogia 7y ago
  The ending of the MGS2 video game (released in November of 2001) was butchered, since it involved a massive submarine crashing into New York City and Konami feared the game could be seen as a criticism of America. In the cutscenes that survived the butchering, you can see vestigial remnants of the original; most notably flagpoles without American flags on them. The ending of the game has the "villain" explain his desire to free America from the AI that personified of the military industrial complex. When he died, an American flag was meant to symbolically fall on his body.
  - PostOnce 7y ago
    Is that a regional change or a global change? Did the Japanese release retain the original ending?
    - catalogia 7y ago
      Unfortunately it was a global change. MGS2 released in the US first, Japan a few weeks later. I'm not sure if that played a roll in any way.
  - baroomba 7y ago
    Supposedly Propeller Arena on the Dreamcast was cancelled over the 9/11 attacks, though I suspect the game was already struggling or being killed for other reasons. There's a leak of the fairly-complete game and it's a hell of a lot of fun. My friends and I have burned a few evenings over the years on it. One of a handful of multiplayer games that we've loved and have no newer replacements for[1] so we have to bust out older consoles or emulation to play them. [1] some others: Bushido Blade 2 (Playstation), Hunter Hunted (PC), Return Fire (Playstation), Blur (Playstation 3), kind of Perfect Dark (N64) which in many ways remains unmatched though of course there are many modern shooters; and then there are other games that do have modern sequels but we much prefer the older ones and they're rapidly getting harder to play because they're from early-ish 3D consoles and don't get re-releases so they won't compete with their own sequels (Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, for instance)
quietbritishjim 7y ago
Infamously, here in the UK someone employed by the government had a similar thought and issued a memo that day saying that it was "a good day to bury bad news". Unfortunately for her, the memo was leaked.
spodek 7y ago
The company I left graduate to cofound based on my invention was scheduled to launch that day with what would have been a major media event we'd planned for months. Here's a brief history for anyone interested: http://joshuaspodek.com/videos-invention-company-founded http://joshuaspodek.com/videos-invention-company-founded. While we didn't face consequences on the scale of people in the towers, the Pentagon, who fought overseas, and first responders, it devastated us.
- DavidAdams 7y ago
  On the morning of September 11, I stepped onto the stage at a trade show to launch my new product. Over the course of the presentation, a buzz developed, and people started standing up and leaving. By the end of my speech, the trade show had been cancelled and everyone was going home. Needless to say, the product was not successful.
  - angry_octet 7y ago
    Can we ask what it was? I'm curious to know if it would have gained traction if it had been launched a year later.

The Alt-rock band They Might Be Giants had a long awaited album "Mink Car" released on the unfortunate date of September 11, 2001.

eCa 7y ago
Same with Bob Dylan’s Love and Theft.
CapricornNoble 7y ago
It was also the release date of Slayer's ominously-titled "God Hates Us All". https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Slayer/God_Hates_Us_All/224 https://www.metal-archives.com/albums/Slayer/God_Hates_Us_Al...

unlinked_dll 7y ago

Chandra Levy's murder was front page news until the attacks https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Levy https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandra_Levy Also a good podcast episode about the case and investigation https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/murdered-chandra-levy/ https://crimejunkiepodcast.com/murdered-chandra-levy/

casefields 7y ago
No wonder I never heard that they solved it: >Following a series of investigative reports by The Washington Post in 2008, the MPD followed up and finally obtained a warrant, on March 3, 2009, to arrest Ingmar Guandique, the illegal immigrant from El Salvador identified and dismissed by the MPDC eight years earlier.
- kibibyte 7y ago
  It's still unsolved. The main witness on Guandique's trial was found to be very unreliable, so the case was dismissed.
- RedComet 7y ago
  Sounds like a bad hombre.

yaakov34 7y ago

I remember hearing a joke around that time - "Who is the happiest man in America right now? - Gary Condit." Condit was being tossed and gored in the media for his supposed role in the disappearance of the intern with whom he had an affair. It was all forgotten pretty quickly that September. Apparently he had nothing to do with the intern's disappearance and murder, but it took years for that to be established.

lioeters 7y ago

On September 10, 2001, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld revealed that the Pentagon had lost $2.3 trillion from its budget. That figure has now grown to $6.5 trillion and counting.

jbuzbee 7y ago
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rumsfeld-says-2-3-trillion-missing-from-the-pentagon.165/ https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rumsfeld-says-2-3-...
- yesenadam 7y ago
  Thank you. That's a great site!
- 34679 7y ago
  I just read it for the first time and was surprised to learn that he was announcing massive cuts to military spending, with base closures, consolidating departments between branches, eliminating acquisition teams, and outsourcing things like janitorial work. That, and better tracking of where the money is going. It was actually a refreshing speech and the exact opposite of the warmonger Rumsfeld would come to be known as. https://web.archive.org/web/20100301161721/http://www.defense.gov/speeches/speech.aspx?speechid=430 https://web.archive.org/web/20100301161721/http://www.defens... "There's a myth, sort of a legend, that money enters this building and disappears, like a bright light into a black hole, never to be seen again. In truth, there is a real person at the other end of every dollar, a real person who's in charge of every domain, and that means that there will be real consequences from, and real resistance to, fundamental change."

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dpiers 7y ago

Donnie Darko’s release in October 2001 was very quiet after they pulled all advertising because a plane crash plays a prominent role in the plot.

catalogia 7y ago
The ending of the MGS2 video game (released in November of 2001) was butchered, since it involved a massive submarine crashing into New York City and Konami feared the game could be seen as a criticism of America. In the cutscenes that survived the butchering, you can see vestigial remnants of the original; most notably flagpoles without American flags on them. The ending of the game has the "villain" explain his desire to free America from the AI that personified of the military industrial complex. When he died, an American flag was meant to symbolically fall on his body.
- PostOnce 7y ago
  Is that a regional change or a global change? Did the Japanese release retain the original ending?
  - catalogia 7y ago
    Unfortunately it was a global change. MGS2 released in the US first, Japan a few weeks later. I'm not sure if that played a roll in any way.
- baroomba 7y ago
  Supposedly Propeller Arena on the Dreamcast was cancelled over the 9/11 attacks, though I suspect the game was already struggling or being killed for other reasons. There's a leak of the fairly-complete game and it's a hell of a lot of fun. My friends and I have burned a few evenings over the years on it. One of a handful of multiplayer games that we've loved and have no newer replacements for[1] so we have to bust out older consoles or emulation to play them. [1] some others: Bushido Blade 2 (Playstation), Hunter Hunted (PC), Return Fire (Playstation), Blur (Playstation 3), kind of Perfect Dark (N64) which in many ways remains unmatched though of course there are many modern shooters; and then there are other games that do have modern sequels but we much prefer the older ones and they're rapidly getting harder to play because they're from early-ish 3D consoles and don't get re-releases so they won't compete with their own sequels (Marvel Vs. Capcom 2, for instance)

quietbritishjim 7y ago

Infamously, here in the UK someone employed by the government had a similar thought and issued a memo that day saying that it was "a good day to bury bad news". Unfortunately for her, the memo was leaked.

spodek 7y ago

The company I left graduate to cofound based on my invention was scheduled to launch that day with what would have been a major media event we'd planned for months. Here's a brief history for anyone interested: http://joshuaspodek.com/videos-invention-company-founded http://joshuaspodek.com/videos-invention-company-founded. While we didn't face consequences on the scale of people in the towers, the Pentagon, who fought overseas, and first responders, it devastated us.

DavidAdams 7y ago
On the morning of September 11, I stepped onto the stage at a trade show to launch my new product. Over the course of the presentation, a buzz developed, and people started standing up and leaving. By the end of my speech, the trade show had been cancelled and everyone was going home. Needless to say, the product was not successful.
- angry_octet 7y ago
  Can we ask what it was? I'm curious to know if it would have gained traction if it had been launched a year later.