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5-MeO-DMT: 20-minute psychoactive experience that’s transforming lives
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- neonate 7y agohttps://archive.md/FptCi https://archive.md/FptCi
- sibeliuss 7y agoThis substance may give you challenging homework, and tests. But it can certainly change one for the better.
- mgarfias 7y agoSo how do I get it?
- miketery 7y agoYou can make it yourself really easily, using: sassafras tree bark, sodium hydroxide (NaOH), and lighter fluid.
- nikivi 7y agoThere are legal research chemical vendors that supply it. I'm sure HN has sourcing prohibitions so you'd have to search yourself.
- non-entity 7y agoI did some very cursory research on these a few weeks back, and I ultimately decided against buying anything atm, at least in the clearnet sites. While many of the "research chemicals" are legal, sounds like a handful people have ended up in jail for quite a while, even for legal substances.
- nikivi 7y agoDepends on the country I guess. Netherlands is quite lax.
- non-entity 7y agoYeah even different places within the US will probably differ. I just happen to live in a very conservative area atm with a particularly infamous police force.
- klyrs 7y agoBetter question: how do I ensure that the mystery powder I bought is actually what I asked for? There's a good, user-friendly testing service in Vancouver. Do your homework, and your due diligence, or you can die. I wish this was an exaggeration.
- mgarfias 7y agoRight. But I was on my phone and was being lazy.
- klyrs 7y agoI meant no criticism, just feel obliged to psa that. “do your homework" means learning about how and how much and what to expect. Due diligence is making sure you got what you paid for before you're having difficulty breathing
- nikivi 7y agoVery awesome experience indeed. Just shows you how powerful our brains are at filtering incoming data to provide you with experience we all have. Salvia especially to me proved how absolutely weird and odd can an experience be like. The brief moment of thinking you are dead only to be instantly put in an experience where you forget you were even a human. An experience where you don't think about the future or past but just feel what you feel right now. Salvia is weird also because it doesn't change what you see but what you feel too. Psychedelics are fascinating. All my experiences though come down to a powerful realization that all that I experience is all that life is. It's very God like feeling.
- jasonjackson 7y agoI like Salvia the most (not for the faint hearted) partly because of how unusual/odd experience it is it doesn't imprint me a bunch of spiritual beliefs afterwards. I feel like I learn more about the mechanism of perception from it; albeit in an uncomfortable way.
- jelliclesfarm 7y agoDo you mean Salvia Divinorum?
- nikivi 7y agoYes. I dropped some notes on it here. https://wiki.nikitavoloboev.xyz/drugs/psychedelics/salvia https://wiki.nikitavoloboev.xyz/drugs/psychedelics/salvia
- fallingfrog 7y agoI didn’t like salvia; to me it just felt like the gain of all my neurons had been cranked up to the point where they started to feedback. It felt like my brain was no longer a device for thinking but was now just producing variegated patterns and noises and other garbage output. I also felt as if I was constantly trying to recover a lost train of thought, like I was thinking, hold on.. wait.. what was I doing again.. and when it wore off I felt more annoyed than anything else. Are all psychedelics more or less like that?
- qwerty456127 7y ago> One single 50mg vaporized dose of 5-MeO-DMT — derived from venom secreted by the Bufo alvarius toad — often produces hallucinogenic, boundless experiences within one second of inhalation that can last from 7 to 90 minutes, and on average lasts 20 minutes. Don't try this at home. This probably applies if you get the actual toad stuff because it can hardly be pure but with pure freebase 5-MeO-DMT (which is a great thing to have) anything above 20 mg is dangerous, 50 mg has chances to be lethal. I have tried about 15 mg (of pure freebase) and it actually had a profound effect. Not only it has "spiritual" sort of effects by giving you a direct experience of non-duality and perfect bliss, it also acts sort of like an awesome antidepressant - try it once and you then feel so much better (and concentration and awareness become so much easier, and anxiety is gone) for weeks after that. I also microdose every time when I have hard time falling asleep - not only it relieves stress which prevents you from falling asleep, it also makes sleep much more refreshing and satisfying so the fact you didn't have much time to sleep doesn't hurt much any more.
- samatman 7y ago50mg of 5-Meo-DMT is an absolutely terrible idea. I'd need a citation, or even an anecdote, to believe that it could be lethal. I've found a datasheet[0] that lists an intraperitoneal LD50 of 115 mg/kg in mice. That's more in keeping with my understanding. [0]: https://www.caymanchem.com/msdss/11628m.pdf https://www.caymanchem.com/msdss/11628m.pdf
- qwerty456127 7y ago> 50mg of 5-Meo-DMT is an absolutely terrible idea. That's what I say. > I'd need a citation, or even an anecdote, to believe that it could be lethal. Somewhere on Reddit or on actualized.org (the place I've learnt about the substance from in the first place). 20 mg also is the highest dose Psychonautwiki mentions as heavy (which suggests nobody should ever try more). Doses directly above that are not straight lethal but, as far as I know, increase chances of getting a heart attack or stopping breathing to dangerous levels (theoretically, my personal experience doesn't actually include even a minor discomfort or disturbance in the heart rate or respiration despite my heart is very prone to rhythm issues). I would love to try a really heroic dose for sake of having an ultimate transcendence experience but wouldn't do that without supervision of a doctor. Psychonautwiki also mentions the toad venom contains about 10% (15% max) of 5-MeO-DMT so 50 mg of the toad venom corresponds to just 5 mg of pure freebase (which is a toy dose). And it also contains 5-HO-DMT (bufotenin) and 5-MeO-NMT which certainly add their flavour to the experience making it different from pure 5-Meo-DMT.
- pmoriarty 7y agoI urge everyone who's contemplating trying this substance, which is arguably by far the most powerful psychedelic on the planet, to thoroughly educate themselves on it first. Erowid[1] is a good place to start. [1] - https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dmt/5meo_dmt.shtml https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/5meo_dmt/5meo_dmt.shtml
- intopieces 7y agoThanks for reminding me about Erowid. Donated -- since I'm in a better position to do so than when I first needed it as a resource.
- Stevvo 7y agoMy own experience, which is documented there on Erowid, about 10 years ago at some ridiculous dosage ingested oral ROA, was much more akin to Psilocybin than DMT. i.e. not the most powerful psychedelic on the planet, but very formidable.
- assadk 7y agoWhat would you say is the most powerful psychedelic?
- kylek 7y agoIboga or datura
- jelliclesfarm 7y agoHow would you compare iboga to datura (stramonium?)
- pmoriarty 7y agoTo anyone who might be curious to try these substances: Both iboga and datura can be deadly! Beware! Both iboga and datura have been used in traditional shamanic contexts, and ibogaine (derived from iboga) has shown some promise in treating addiction, but usually this is done with a medical team trained to handle possible dangers. I know of no remotely safe way to do datura at psychedelic dosages. Most of the datura trip reports I've read have had a nightmarish character to them, with true hallucinations (ie. ones where the user does not realize that they're experiencing something that is not there), often involve the users putting themselves and/or others in physical danger, and often result in amnesia. More can be read about iboga and datura on Erowid: https://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura.shtml https://www.erowid.org/plants/datura/datura.shtml https://www.erowid.org/plants/iboga/iboga.shtml https://www.erowid.org/plants/iboga/iboga.shtml
- lemonberry 7y agoI've eaten LSD and mushrooms dozens of times over the years and continue to do each almost nearly. I've had several DMT experiences. A couple were amazing. One was the most terrifying psychedelic experience I've ever had. Thankfully, DMT's high is very short lived. As good as the "good" trips were on DMT I never felt any sort of introspection with it that I've felt with LSD and Mushrooms. My good trips with DMT: the most vivid visuals I've ever experienced IF my eyes were kept closed; warped sense of time, it felt like it lasted for hours but was over in 10 to 15 minutes. Once my DMT experiences were over it was like nothing ever happened. Zero residual psychoactive experience afterwards ( LSD and Mushrooms can take some time and you can see tracers, shadow effects, etc. as you're coming down ). I'm a big fan of psychedelics. I do not recommend them for everyone. If you're going to do them do a ton of research.
- pmoriarty 7y agoJust to be clear, a lot of what passes for "DMT" on the street is actually N,N-dimethyltryptamine, which (while also a very powerful psychedelic) is NOT the same as 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (aka 5-MeO-DMT), which is the subject of the Forbes article. It would be prudent to find out which "DMT" you're getting, and educate yourself on the difference. You really don't want to confuse the two.
- lemonberry 7y agoThanks for the tip. My experience was decades ago. No idea what it actually was. I'm much more careful about what I put in my body now.
- monktastic1 7y agoI'd say it's more than just what "passes" for DMT. "DMT" is well-established shorthand for N,N-DMT, and anyone shortening "5-MeO-DMT" to just "DMT" is probably either not very familiar with psychedelics or being dishonest.
- jes5199 7y agopretty sure you’re describing regular DMT (the stuff in ayahuasca) not 5-MeO-DMT (the frog venom). They’re both short and otherworldly, but DMT is more about the amazing experiences while 5-MeO-DMT is more about the amazing non-experiences. Or something like that
- arexxbifs 7y agoI seem to recall there was a similar article about psilocybin on HN just a few days ago. While there certainly might be some therapeutic use for psychedelics, they are a very unpredictable instrument. I think this recently re-emerging trend of attributing them with almost magical cure-all qualities is risky at best. You might certainly have a blissful, life-altering experience with a prolonged positive afterglow, but you could also end up in a hellish, confused world of angst and terror for what seems like an eternity, and feel excruciatingly hollow for weeks or months afterwards. The latter can of course be devastating to someone suffering from depression, anxiety or other psychological ailments.
- pmoriarty 7y ago"you could also end up in a hellish, confused world of angst and terror for what seems like an eternity" This is why it's incredibly important (especially for super powerful psychedelics) to prepare properly, take them in a safe place with an experienced person you like and trust, and integrate the experience afterwards in to your life. That said, even difficult experiences might ultimately benefit you, if you try to learn from them and integrate them properly (perhaps with the aid of a therapist). James Fadiman's Psychedelics Explorer's Guide[1] has a lot of great information on making the most of one's psychedelic experience, and doing so safely and constructively. You could also maximize the chance the experience will be a good and constructive one by doing it in a therapeutic, shamanic, or sacred context. But make sure to vet whoever you do it with thoroughly, as there have been some abuses by people in power in these contexts before (I'm particularly thinking of reports of rapes by shamen in Peru, and other reports of DMT facilitators shocking users with tazers or forcing water or tobacco snuff up their nose/mouth during the experience). Be safe people! [1] - https://www.amazon.com/Psychedelic-Explorers-Guide-Therapeutic-Journeys/dp/1594774021/ https://www.amazon.com/Psychedelic-Explorers-Guide-Therapeut...
- sibeliuss 7y agoThis is such a critical point. Without a lot of psychedelic experience under ones belt this state can come as a surprise and cause difficulty with integration. (Well, even with a lot of experience, the same can happen.) A recent experience with this substance took me to a very bleak place in order to remind me what it means to live. I had to metaphorically crawl, uphill and on ice, back to life. It was very, very difficult. I'm grateful. However, time does not behave in a normal way in this space and things had to be put back together, slowly. That being said, understanding the risks and going into the experience without expectation -- with a trained guide, in a safe setting -- can significantly alter the outcome in ones favor. These medicines are powerful and potentially life-changing free agents inside of the mind -- to change in such a way means releasing a lot of psychic baggage. It can be unsettling, but there can also be a lot to gain. It's important to be educated.
- scottlocklin 7y agoJesus what's next? "The 10 minute psychoactive experience of sniffing toluene/glue that cures autism." Having used more than my share of psychedelics, extracted from Bufo Alvarus even, 5-MeO-DMT is not something normies or even people who'd like to remain sane, should ever fool around with. "vital mental health tool" my mental image of an asshole.
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- npo9 7y agoI greatly prefer the longer lasting psychedelics — a six hour mushroom trip feels a bit rushed for me. I have a theory that a large part of the benefit of psychedelics is taking some time, attention, and intention into the health of your own psyche. This isn’t to say that a psychedelic can be replaced with a placebo, but to say that you can also obtain many of the same benefits from many all day mental self care activities. The combined effects of the drug, time, intention and attention are really powerful. I’m also concerned with the commercialization of psychedelics, and that we may lose something important as it becomes a common commodity. Shorter trips feels like something more easily commercialized with higher user turnover. YMMV and all effects vary between individuals.
- pmoriarty 7y agoThere's some extended-state DMT experiments (aka "DMTx") in the works.[1][2][3] The plan is to use a machine designed to inject anesthetics to inject DMT intravenously. Since use of DMT seems not to build up any tolerance, it could in theory be extended indefinitely, or at least for hours or even days at a time. [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tlbtqLOmYs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tlbtqLOmYs [2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-99pZpTvA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc-99pZpTvA [3] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7gLqmdpwxE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7gLqmdpwxE
- floatinglotus 7y agoWhile ai understand where you are coming from, I find the short acting psychedelics particularly interesting as one can get in and get out very quickly, with limited risk and I believe the ability to bring back small pieces of knowledge.
- gfodor 7y agoI’ve come to think that the field of “psychedelic engineering” will emerge from this trend, and that it may be the tool we need to finally start grappling with the hard problem of consciousness. Until we can run safe, targeted, empirical experiments around consciousness, we are stuck using noisy outlier cases (like those who have physical brain damage) to extrapolate from, with no control, defined variations, or iterative deductions possible. Alternatively, if one could quickly design drugs to alter conscious experience in a targeted and safe way, not only would it open up the population of people who could partake in these kinds of experiments (legally of course) but also open the possibility of a new frontier of exploration, with tactical ‘expeditions’ set out by researchers, similar to the astronauts, where there was some risk but the artifact would be validated knowledge about the brain and mind. In combination with other experimental techniques, one could imagine a whole host of hypotheses which could be rapidly tested in a replicatable way that presently are not possible to do so. For example, the question of if these experiences are completely self-created psychoses, or if the ‘entities’ seen during these experiences have some, if partial, external coupling (even if it is as benign as non-living, static environmental factors), could be readily tested if it were possible for repeated, controlled, experiments to try to falsify various claims.
- crtlaltdel 7y agoid argue that “psychedelic engineering” has long been a goal of researchers. oh, and in pretty sure i’ve heard tell of “psychonauts” before...
- 3131s 7y agoRead PiHKAL and TiHKAL. These two books on phenylethylamines and tryptamines have a unique mixture of personal insight into the recreational use of psychedelics along with technical instructions from a chemist to recreate hundreds of these drugs.
- crtlaltdel 7y agoyup, read them many-many years ago. i spent a large portion of my youth immersed in this world (figuratively, literally) :)
- PragmaticPulp 7y agoBefore anyone considers self-experimenting with 5-MeO-DMT, remember that survivorship bias is a major factor in online psychedelic reporting right now. You should not make treatment decisions based on articles like this one recounting Mike Tyson's psychedelic trips as told to podcast host Joe Rogan for the sake of entertaining their audience. Psychedelics are no doubt an interesting area of research and potentially very powerful agents in the context of comprehensive, professionally-guided treatment strategies. However, it's important for everyone to acknowledge that these powerful drugs are not guaranteed to produce unilaterally positive changes in all people who use them. Ordering some psilocybin, LSD, or 5-MeO-DMT off of the darknet and dosing yourself in your home is a completely different experience than the MAPS style treatment protocols, which involve many intense sessions of pre-trip preparation, active guidance by professionals during the trip, and multiple post-session therapy sessions for integration and monitoring. It's a mistake to assume you can replicate these procedures by yourself, alone, with questionable substances purchased on the darknet. I've also noticed that internet comment sections are actively hostile to any negative experience reports from psychedelics. Whenever psychedelic research related topics hit the front page of Reddit, it's fascinating to read the variety of anecdotal experience reports in the comments. They range from glowing endorsements of life-changing positivity like this article, to horror stories of multi-year depressive or psychotic episodes that were difficult to recover from. However, the negative anecdotes tend to be so aggressively downvoted that you can't see them unless you switch to "Controversial" sorting some times. Worse yet, the negative anecdotes draw attacks and victim-blaming from people who don't want to believe that psychedelics can be harmful. It's common to dismiss the negative reports as failures of "set and setting" or "latent pre-existing conditions", but the truth is that the outcomes of these substances are very unpredictable. Everyone assumes that their own experience will be positive, or that their preparation and research will save them, but that's not always the case. I've even witnessed positive psychedelic outcomes turn dark as people become fixated on their tripping experiences. In psychedelic research the drugs are a part of the therapy. A means to an end. However, I've seen more than a few casual psychedelic users put too much weight into their hallucinations, or become fixated with the false belief that they are just one or two more trips away from a major breakthrough. Or they think enlightenment will come if they just double the dose next time. Or they become obsessed with trying the next research chemical or trendy mushroom strain. Or their first response to every difficult situation in life is to reach for psychedelic drugs. Fascinating topic, but I urge everyone to please watch from a distance rather than self-experiment. If you have serious medical conditions, please engage with professionals for a monitored treatment strategy. If you absolutely must have your fix of psychedelic medicine, you can always engage with a ketamine treatment facility.
- pstuart 7y agoI had the pleasure of experiencing DMT over 20 years ago and only recently had learned that what I experienced was not unique: https://non-aliencreatures.fandom.com/wiki/Machine_Elf https://non-aliencreatures.fandom.com/wiki/Machine_Elf (mine looked like an animated Persian carpet). It was the only time in my life where the hallucination took over full visual (and auditory) input; I could see nothing but that. While it was really intense, I didn't take away any lessons from it as I have from LSD and psilocybin. I think it's too strong to be a proper teacher and is just more of a thrill ride. I recognize that we all have different responses but I'm betting that I'm not alone in this assessment.
- pmoriarty 7y agoAgain, a lot of what passes for "DMT" on the street is actually N,N-dimethyltryptamine, which (while also a very powerful psychedelic) is NOT the same as 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine (aka 5-MeO-DMT), which is the subject of the Forbes article. It would be prudent to find out which "DMT" you're getting, and educate yourself on the difference. You really don't want to confuse the two.
- pmoriarty 7y agoStanislav Grof (who supervised roughly 4500 LSD sessions and himself took LSD over 100 times) on 5-MeO-DMT: "We have an amazing book by Ralph Metzner called The Toad and the Jaguar. Ralph traveled all over Europe and in the United States, visiting these groups that were using it, using some illegal loopholes or doing a kind of underground research and he wrote this book where he collected that information in a way that could become the basis of scientific research. "Now, what is fantastic there is that this substance creates a very short, within an hour, which is within the time of one psychoanalytic session, you can experience significant transformation, even spiritual opening. The substance is methoxy-DMT. "I have in my book When the Impossible Happens a chapter which is called "The Secret of the Toad of Light" -- there are churches in the American Southwest that are actually using it as a sacrament, called the Church of the Toad of Light. "I took a fairly large dose, one that is more than is usually used. My first time I really didn't know the dosing. It was estimated 25 milligrams. Today you would use 5 or 10. This was by far the most powerful psychedelic experience I've ever had. "Within seconds it took me out of my body. There was nothing biographical, no birth experiences, nothing archetypal. I was just facing this incredible source of light, for the lack of a better description. It was beyond anything I could imagine in terms of the brilliancy and incandescence that it had, but also a sense that there was incredible intelligence, creative intelligence going beyond any dichotomies. I couldn't say if it was daemonic or divine. It was just off the scales that I had. "Coming down from that experience, I had the feeling I was dying -- not from life in to dying but from a place beyond death into a dying body, and after a while it became clear that this was not really dying, it was an experience of dying, and for quite a while I was in a situation where I was an absolutely blissful state and I was having visions of streams of my past life experiences where I had the feeling of dying and being killed in different situations. My body was acting out the agony. It was shaking, twitching, but psychologically, emotionally I was in absolute bliss. "Then coming down for a week I was in a state in which I would like to live. We were at the time living at Esalen. We had a deck overlooking the ocean. This was the time I was handwriting my manuscripts and giving it to a secretary and having to edit it. In that week I had to do editing of my manuscript, which I could do perfectly lying in the sun there, and I would take a little break and within seconds I had the feeling of oneness with the whole environment, oneness with the world. Then I would open my eyes and I could continue editing. "But then of course, the consciousness of the industrial civilization came back to do workshops, travel, so I didn't stay in that state but my meditations became much, much deeper and it was not difficult to get into some version of that state just through meditation. "So I think this would be an amazing substance to try for practical reasons. Because you will not find psychiatrists like my self, in the 60's and so on, sitting for six hours with their patients but they could certainly do a one hour session with the methoxy-DMT and I think signifcant therapy could be done within this very short time. "It's also, according to Ralph Metzner's observations, it's a substance where the experience ends very cleanly. There's no lingering on. So there is a very powerful experience but also a good closure. "So this is my experience with methoxy-DMT. Now it's very very popular. For example, we had the Tranpsersonal Conference in Prague and there were lectures about it and of course there were people who had access to the toad material, to the excretions or secretions of the glands. So it's becoming a very popular substance right now."[1] [1] - From about 38 minutes in to Tim Ferris' interview with Grof here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mdYUmvTeig https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mdYUmvTeig
- obiefernandez 7y agoI tried 5-MeO-DMT a long time ago. Talking almost 20 years ago. The main thing I remember was a profound slowing down of time perception. Me and the other guy on it practically attacked our babysitter wanting to know how long it would take to wear off because it seemed like hours and hours had passed by. And I'll never forget what he replied, "relax it's only been 5 minutes"
- AdmiralGinge 7y agoBeing able to isolate the part of the experience that deals with time sounds like it could create some interesting/horrific implications for society. You could give a criminal multi-century prison sentences for crimes and they still have their life left at the end of it all. You could contract the boring parts of your life and extend the interesting ones. Forget "living to work", you could do a full day's work in the blink of an eye and have a decade-long evening to enjoy life.
- floatinglotus 7y agoI’ve done most of the drugs discussed but still not 5MEO. I can’t believe someone is offering a controlled therapeutic setting for this and I’d love to get more information. How do I get in contact with these people?
- debbiedowner 7y agoUbik?
- Albedoen 7y agoHey guys, I've been serving 5+MeO-DMT in the context of self-development program for entrepreneurs for the past 2 years. I've personally engaged in 400+ journeys myself. Feel free to AMA. The most important point I wish to bring is that it is SUPREMELY IMPORTANT to work with facilitators who provide preparation & integration. The potential for self-transformation and liberation from emotions not accessible by traditional means is profound. If you feel the impulse, go for it!
- pmoriarty 7y agoHave you observed any patterns in the effects 5-MeO-DMT had on the people you administered it to? I'm particularly interested in long-term effects and long-term changes in beliefs and behaviors. Also, what are some of the worst negative effects you've observed among the people you facilitated for?
- virtualwhys 7y agoHaving witnessed at least 100 sessions, there are no long-term changes beyond the participant having intimately experienced some aspect of the infinite (whether it be harrowing or blissful) and as a result knowing that that potentiality exists. Behaviorally most just go back to the same patterns and aren't particularly changed. Ayahuasca, due to the before/after dietary constraints, is more effective (IMO) in inducing lifestyle changes. That said, 5MeO is the death experience (i.e. it very likely mirrors the experience at the moment of physical death) and is, if nothing else, great practice for the real thing :) In terms of adverse effects, some wounded warriors take days, weeks, or even months to heal, but that's the same for any psychedelic, a segment of the population will be adversely affected. Also, 5MeO can be abused; I've encountered at least one facilitator who takes it daily (over 3K journeys), which seems somewhat excessive, and can be seen in their flat affect (i.e. you'd expect such a being to radiate joy if number of journeys === depth of experience).
- Albedoen 7y agoIs preparation & integration part of the 100 sessions you have witnessed? I agree that without the proper context & assistance, most of the effect is just wasted and remains in people's Being as a distant experience.
- mirimir 7y agoOK, my $0.02 as someone who's used lots of psychedelics. Start with a couple grams of dried Psilocybe. And don't combine it with alcohol, marijuana, etc. If you liked that, after at least a couple weeks, try two or three times as much. Then repeat until you're experiencing a little ego loss. If you liked all that, try some LSD. Maybe start with 50 micrograms or so. Then repeat the dosage increase regimen until you experience total ego loss for several hours. And if you liked that, then try some DMT or 5-MeO-DMT. But not otherwise. It's only 20-30 minutes, but it could feel like forever.
- mapcars 7y ago“Experiencing 5-MeO-DMT is this amazing feeling of ‘oceanic bliss,’” she says. “By experiencing this profound connection with the universe and all living beings, one gets the feeling that we’re incredibly lucky to have even been birthed on this beautiful planet.” One can achieve this through yoga, and not for 20 minutes trip but as a constant state of experience.
- thelittleone 7y agoPerhaps true but after how many years of yoga? Does enough of a % of humanity have the patience to persevere? Yoga is great. Meditation is great. Both are slow, and humanity wants / needs to wake up now.
- mapcars 7y ago>Does enough of a % of humanity have the patience to persevere? Don't worry about humanity, just see what you can do for yourself. >Both are slow, and humanity wants / needs to wake up now. If you are making a baby, do you want one which is made 9 months or one which comes earlier? Everything has it's time, for someone it takes less time, for some - more, but this is just how it goes, if you are taking shortcuts with life you just fooling yourself.
- thelittleone 7y ago>Don't worry about humanity, just see what you can do for yourself. Thanks I do appreciate that view and one that is often said. Healing starts with us. Heal yourself, heal the world etc. So I went to see what I could do for myself. And I found that helping others was how I helped myself. So I think that often suggested philosophy is simple on the surface but actually quite the paradox. > if you are taking shortcuts with life you just fooling yourself. What is a shortcut? Isn't part of improving as an individual or species about finding ways to do things more efficiently? With less time or energy or resources.
- mapcars 7y ago
- ada1981 7y agoI went through a breakup 8 months ago that brought up a lot of old patterns, including some suicidal thoughts. A shaman was coming through NYC to work with vets with PTSD and I was invited to sit in a ceremony with him. I was afraid I was going to loose my mind / be sent to hell. And I did. The trip immediately amplified my fears and put me into a hellspace that was also outside of time. I had what felt like an eternity to be face to face with these fears and paranoia. At one point I thought, the reason people do this is so they never do it again. 5 minutes later I was back and thinking, wow that was intense but really useful, I should do it again immediately. So this time I was able to surrender to the experience and not fight it. It wasn’t very visual but I did encounter a very dark energy that felt like the Devil. This energy was the depression and suicidal impulse. I went deep into it and it was frightening but I eventually confronted it in a very direct way and just said “I want to live my life”. I then came out and observed a sort of metaphysical geometry. I could see a white light at the center and surrounding it the darker energy I had just confronted. The dark energy felt to me like “sin”, as in the archery term that means missing the mark. The white light was the bullseye. And I was reminded in a very deep way that the way to ensure being able to embrace the experience of death and head into the white light, is to practice embracing life every day. Step into the adventure of your own mythology, take the risks, speak the truth, follow your bliss, and also face the pain and suffering head on. It took a couple weeks to integrate that, and waves of the experience resurfaced at times like while in the subway - (which in reflection was a new way of experiencing social anxiety) but I knew to stay with these experiences and to integrate them. After that experience my life really became much more stable, I expanded my theraputic executive coaching program (ALCHEMY) tripled my income in a few months, shipped a number of creative projects (majagual.org; MemeScope.com; anthonydavidadams.com/lsd; dnnyc.org to name a few) And the suicidal thoughts really feel gone this time. Integration is really important and needs to be focused on and I’ve done a number of things to support that. Mandala Journaling (I have a free pdf of my practice on my website) Cuddle Therapy Oxtocin Supplementation Yoga Breathwork Co-leading a men’s group I also co-founded dnnyc.org to help decriminalize natural entheogens in New York City.
- crmrc114 7y agoTrimread link if you despise the auto-playing video on forbes https://beta.trimread.com/articles/4010 https://beta.trimread.com/articles/4010