> You want to compare programmers to non programmers. No I don't. I said technically ambitious startup because I didn't mean a scenario where the group was too

> You want to compare programmers to non programmers. No I don't. I said technically ambitious startup because I didn't mean a scenario where the group was too clueless to even program something easy. Read my comment assuming the programmers in that startup scenario are average industry programmers. Does your answer change?