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Coasting through life is still being part of the rat race - except you run at a lower pace. The core issue remains: if you don't have a plan for your life, soc

by 1996 7y ago

Coasting through life is still being part of the rat race - except you run at a lower pace. The core issue remains: if you don't have a plan for your life, society will make a plan for you. By making your own destiny, you may fill part of your time with work, but only as long as it serves your purpose. How good is your idea of wasting time to get meaningful productivity, if you are achieving someone else's goals instead of your own?

blinkingled 7y ago
> How good is your idea of wasting time to get meaningful productivity, if you are achieving someone else's goals instead of your own? That's a great point actually - the someone else's goals part. The whole intelligence in service of madness thing stems from the fact that sane and intelligent people sometimes do not have a goal of their own. I definitely did not mean to imply that idling is the only thing you do with your life - on the contrary I was trying to say idling is a great way of knowing who you are and coming up with general goals for yourself that you can then fulfill in the rest of the time. The problem with busy life is you never really dream of your goals and are constantly looking for things to do - it makes it almost eventual that you'll be in service of others' goals. That's not always a bad thing but I find no fulfillment in doing just that.
- tonyedgecombe 7y ago
  The whole intelligence in service of madness thing stems from the fact that sane and intelligent people sometimes do not have a goal of their own. I have a suspicion that the majority only have a vague idea and they mostly end up where they are by happenstance.
marnett 7y ago
This is profound and concise. Particularly that society/someone/something will make a plan out of you if you are without one.
wruza 7y ago
>The core issue remains: if you don't have a plan for your life, society will make a plan for you. You only plan to choose various plans society has for you. There is no plan that is viable out of society’s general direction, if you participate in any constructive way. Seneca, Socrates and many others were just a tip of the iceberg, and they quickly go underwater, when that iceberg decided to flip or crack. It is okay to achieve others goals if you get paid enough and do not have to constantly fight (iow carry huge risks) through your life. Their perspective is useful, in a way Jocko Willink motivation videos are useful, but you don’t really go to a full-blown war after watching these, nor are you ready for it.

by 1996 7y ago

blinkingled 7y ago

> How good is your idea of wasting time to get meaningful productivity, if you are achieving someone else's goals instead of your own? That's a great point actually - the someone else's goals part. The whole intelligence in service of madness thing stems from the fact that sane and intelligent people sometimes do not have a goal of their own. I definitely did not mean to imply that idling is the only thing you do with your life - on the contrary I was trying to say idling is a great way of knowing who you are and coming up with general goals for yourself that you can then fulfill in the rest of the time. The problem with busy life is you never really dream of your goals and are constantly looking for things to do - it makes it almost eventual that you'll be in service of others' goals. That's not always a bad thing but I find no fulfillment in doing just that.

tonyedgecombe 7y ago
The whole intelligence in service of madness thing stems from the fact that sane and intelligent people sometimes do not have a goal of their own. I have a suspicion that the majority only have a vague idea and they mostly end up where they are by happenstance.

marnett 7y ago

This is profound and concise. Particularly that society/someone/something will make a plan out of you if you are without one.

wruza 7y ago

>The core issue remains: if you don't have a plan for your life, society will make a plan for you. You only plan to choose various plans society has for you. There is no plan that is viable out of society’s general direction, if you participate in any constructive way. Seneca, Socrates and many others were just a tip of the iceberg, and they quickly go underwater, when that iceberg decided to flip or crack. It is okay to achieve others goals if you get paid enough and do not have to constantly fight (iow carry huge risks) through your life. Their perspective is useful, in a way Jocko Willink motivation videos are useful, but you don’t really go to a full-blown war after watching these, nor are you ready for it.