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A bit tangential but closely related, I believe French HipHop / Rap makes such a good use of our language and all the slangs which I find lacking a bit in Engli

A bit tangential but closely related, I believe French HipHop / Rap makes such a good use of our language and all the slangs which I find lacking a bit in English HipHop. I don't know if it's cultural or if I am really unaware of the equivalent in English, but it is such a delight to see the creativity of those folks. A few recent examples : https://genius.com/15760906 https://genius.com/15760906 < Cadillac | Game over : A song about death. "J'écoute des CDs, des sons de l'au-delà" > I listen to records (CD), sounds from the other side. Des CDs also sound like being dead (décédé). https://genius.com/Odezenne-tu-pu-du-cu-lyrics https://genius.com/Odezenne-tu-pu-du-cu-lyrics < Odezenne | Tu pu du cu "T’es stupéfiant \ Je te roule, je te fume \ T’es stupéfait" > Word play on stupéfiant which is both a word for drugs and being surprising / stunning. https://genius.com/Nekfeu-egerie-lyrics https://genius.com/Nekfeu-egerie-lyrics < Nekfeu | Egérie "Toujours en déplacement le soir \ Mais, c'qui compte, c'est le dépassement de soi" > The play on déplacemment (being out of town) / dépassement (overcoming) ... le soir / de soi. Brilliant

glandium 7y ago
Relatedly, but further away from OP, and.not rap/hip hop, but Frandol's "l'un contre l'autre" makes a very good use of double entendre. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BNdxHUv3vmc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BNdxHUv3vmc
sleazy_b 7y ago
I'm not sure if this is what you meant but there's a ton of word play in American Hip-Hop, it's pretty core to the genre. Literally any rapper you pick will be doing some amount of word play.
- lapnitnelav 7y ago
  Oh I am sure there are word plays in American / English speaking HipHop, I just haven't found the same propensity than in the French scene. If you have notable examples in mind, please do share with me because I have been trying to find that for a while to prove my own point wrong.
  - sleazy_b 7y ago
    Sure I think MF DOOM is a good place to start especially his Madvillainy album with the producer Madlib which is really well regarded. More recent stuff I enjoy is Mick Jenkins from Chicago, his 2014 The Waters mixtape was also really well reviewed. Aesop Rock is also generally thought of as a really good technical rapper. His album None Shall Pass from the Def Jux days is really good though I prefer Skelethon which has less word play but is also brilliant.
  - 40acres 7y ago
    Listen to Jay Z - Reasonable Doubt.
  - rvnx 7y ago
    Hey, thanks for spreading Mc Solaar :) Great author indeed
nwienert 7y ago
Yea, this is extremely common in American hip hop for a long time, and some of the turns are also quite breathtaking. Glad to see it in French too
gherkinnn 7y ago
For some reason this line in Rap God stuck out to me: "If I can't batter the women, how the fuck am I supposed to bake them a cake then?" Reddit tells me it’s aimed at Chris Brown. [0] [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/1oxoe5/if_i_cant_batter_the_women_how_the_fuck_am_i/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/1oxoe5/if_i_cant_ba...
lapnitnelav 7y ago
I can't edit my original comment anymore but if you do have an interest in French, I strongly recommend studying the first 2 examples because they are pretty much full of those carefully crafted punchlines. A bit older but very much a classic too, https://genius.com/Mc-solaar-caroline-lyrics https://genius.com/Mc-solaar-caroline-lyrics
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glandium 7y ago

Relatedly, but further away from OP, and.not rap/hip hop, but Frandol's "l'un contre l'autre" makes a very good use of double entendre. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BNdxHUv3vmc https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BNdxHUv3vmc

sleazy_b 7y ago

I'm not sure if this is what you meant but there's a ton of word play in American Hip-Hop, it's pretty core to the genre. Literally any rapper you pick will be doing some amount of word play.

lapnitnelav 7y ago
Oh I am sure there are word plays in American / English speaking HipHop, I just haven't found the same propensity than in the French scene. If you have notable examples in mind, please do share with me because I have been trying to find that for a while to prove my own point wrong.
- sleazy_b 7y ago
  Sure I think MF DOOM is a good place to start especially his Madvillainy album with the producer Madlib which is really well regarded. More recent stuff I enjoy is Mick Jenkins from Chicago, his 2014 The Waters mixtape was also really well reviewed. Aesop Rock is also generally thought of as a really good technical rapper. His album None Shall Pass from the Def Jux days is really good though I prefer Skelethon which has less word play but is also brilliant.
- 40acres 7y ago
  Listen to Jay Z - Reasonable Doubt.
- rvnx 7y ago
  Hey, thanks for spreading Mc Solaar :) Great author indeed

nwienert 7y ago

Yea, this is extremely common in American hip hop for a long time, and some of the turns are also quite breathtaking. Glad to see it in French too

gherkinnn 7y ago

For some reason this line in Rap God stuck out to me: "If I can't batter the women, how the fuck am I supposed to bake them a cake then?" Reddit tells me it’s aimed at Chris Brown. [0] [0] https://www.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/1oxoe5/if_i_cant_batter_the_women_how_the_fuck_am_i/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/1oxoe5/if_i_cant_ba...

lapnitnelav 7y ago

I can't edit my original comment anymore but if you do have an interest in French, I strongly recommend studying the first 2 examples because they are pretty much full of those carefully crafted punchlines. A bit older but very much a classic too, https://genius.com/Mc-solaar-caroline-lyrics https://genius.com/Mc-solaar-caroline-lyrics

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