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Wokeists are fairly adamant that we should be judged/hired/listened to a greater or lesser extent depending on the color of our skins. So overtly quoting MLK's
by monoideism 7y ago
Wokeists are fairly adamant that we should be judged/hired/listened to a greater or lesser extent depending on the color of our skins. So overtly quoting MLK's famous quote identifies people as someone who disagrees with that assumption, and thus blackball-worthy.
- nkozyra 7y agoYou're again describing the ideal. There is, however, a reality that isn't congruent with the ideal. So "wokeists" may be operating in a space where reality tempers this enviable ideal.
- monoideism 7y agoI'm guessing you saw where I addressed this argument elsewhere in the thread, but in case I'll paste it below. In short, of course it's an ideal and not congruent with current reality. Still doesn't mean it's not the best way to go about things, for all parties. For anyone who has grown up and been educated under a social justice heterodoxy, understanding this classical liberal point of view seems difficult. From my other comment: There are folks who see very clearly that MLK's dream remains unfulfilled, who want it to be fulfilled, and yet who still oppose making hiring decisions on the basis on someone's race or gender. Those are not mutually exclusive
- nkozyra 7y ago> Still doesn't mean it's not the best way to go about things, for all parties. No, it 100% isn't the best way to go about things, because it isn't reality. And by pretending it is we ignore the very real institutional problems that leave people of color (and similarly women, LGBTQ, etc) behind the eight ball from day one. There is a way to say "we're all the equal" but also "I recognize the unnatural inequality imposed by systemic, lingering institutions." By ignoring the second part, you discount the experience of living in an inequitable system.