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I don't think holding racist, homophobic, or sexist views would be considered "bad opinions". They are likely going to limit your effectiveness in the workplace

I don't think holding racist, homophobic, or sexist views would be considered "bad opinions". They are likely going to limit your effectiveness in the workplace, so yeah seems fine to screen for that.

coldtea 7y ago
The US had been full of racisst, homophobic, and sexist people much more in the past and it didn't hurt their "effectiveness in the workplace", to the point that the US was the #1 economy in the world. So, maybe personal opinions of that nature are not related to being a good developer or a good car mechanic or hair dresser. Second, what's a offensive (e.g. homophobic, sexist, etc) is quite an arbitrary thing these days, with all kinds of things that would perfectly fine for a leftist Democrat to say in 1990 or 2000 or 2010 being considered as such in 2020, and things getting weirder by the minute.
- chillwaves 7y ago
  If keeping racists around was so good for business, then business culture would not have drastically changed in the last 50 or 60 years. As far as US being #1 economy, that generally happens when the rest of the developed world is in rubble (post WWII). Men being sexist and racist was not necessarily a contributor. Another trend was more people smoked cigarettes. Do you thinking smoking cigarettes means a more effective business?
  - coldtea 7y ago
    >If keeping racists around was so good for business Nobody said it was "good". What was said, to quote, is: "So, maybe personal opinions of that nature are not related to being a good developer or a good car mechanic or hair dresser" -- in other words, that it was not really a contributor (pro or con). >Another trend was more people smoked cigarettes. Do you thinking smoking cigarettes means a more effective business? No, but I do think whether an employee smoked or not said nothing about how good they are at their job.
    - chillwaves 7y ago
      > it didn't hurt their "effectiveness in the workplace" You can't know that. The fact businesses almost universally moved to eliminate these tendencies speaks to some evidence that it was to their detriment. And as far as I know, smokers are not being penalized in the work place, despite taking more breaks than non smokers.

coldtea 7y ago

The US had been full of racisst, homophobic, and sexist people much more in the past and it didn't hurt their "effectiveness in the workplace", to the point that the US was the #1 economy in the world. So, maybe personal opinions of that nature are not related to being a good developer or a good car mechanic or hair dresser. Second, what's a offensive (e.g. homophobic, sexist, etc) is quite an arbitrary thing these days, with all kinds of things that would perfectly fine for a leftist Democrat to say in 1990 or 2000 or 2010 being considered as such in 2020, and things getting weirder by the minute.

chillwaves 7y ago
If keeping racists around was so good for business, then business culture would not have drastically changed in the last 50 or 60 years. As far as US being #1 economy, that generally happens when the rest of the developed world is in rubble (post WWII). Men being sexist and racist was not necessarily a contributor. Another trend was more people smoked cigarettes. Do you thinking smoking cigarettes means a more effective business?
- coldtea 7y ago
  >If keeping racists around was so good for business Nobody said it was "good". What was said, to quote, is: "So, maybe personal opinions of that nature are not related to being a good developer or a good car mechanic or hair dresser" -- in other words, that it was not really a contributor (pro or con). >Another trend was more people smoked cigarettes. Do you thinking smoking cigarettes means a more effective business? No, but I do think whether an employee smoked or not said nothing about how good they are at their job.
  - chillwaves 7y ago
    > it didn't hurt their "effectiveness in the workplace" You can't know that. The fact businesses almost universally moved to eliminate these tendencies speaks to some evidence that it was to their detriment. And as far as I know, smokers are not being penalized in the work place, despite taking more breaks than non smokers.