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As a gay man, you're safer and better off in Singapore than you would be in most parts of Europe and the top portion of the list. Yet Singapore is down at 92.

As a gay man, you're safer and better off in Singapore than you would be in most parts of Europe and the top portion of the list. Yet Singapore is down at 92. Interpret this however you want, but the list flawed. Laws don't mean shit unless they're enforced and that goes both ways. "Bad" laws not enforced is better than good laws not enforced.

1hakr 7y ago
Thanks for the feedback mate. I got this data from Spartacus website. Do you think it's not accurate? What about all the other countries? https://spartacus.gayguide.travel/blog/spartacus-gay-travel-index/ https://spartacus.gayguide.travel/blog/spartacus-gay-travel-...
- netsharc 7y ago
  Fucking hell, your defense against all the criticism is that "Oh it's data from some 3rd party!", which is more or less saying "not my fault!". As another has said, this is less than useless, this is dangerous. And if it's the source that's wrong, then the source is also dangerous, but you're spreading dangerously wrong information. I hope no LGBT+ person actually depends on your site, because it might get them fucking killed. Besides, having the info be country-wide is not granular enough. A gay traveller would probably feel very safe in San Francisco but not feel very safe in some little town deep in Alabama.
  - mtnGoat 7y ago
    I'm a straight male and I feel uncomfortable in parts of TN, WV, AL, GA. I go there to see family and I don't like it. I feel like some of these folks don't just dislike LGBT, they dislike everyone. Downtown Seattle at 4am in cracktown is safer, then small town WV as an outsider. Edited for spelling
- silencio 7y ago
  that guide has such a bad reputation for a lot of queer people. the rating isn't a bad rough guide, but it is outright dangerous as a resource to people who are especially trans and gender nonconforming, and queer people traveling with their kids. if you make it clear that that's your source that's fine, but.... it needs to be more clear.
notahacker 7y ago
Yes and no. On the one hand a gay tourist is considerably less likely to be on the receiving end of homophobic beatings in Singapore than many liberal European countries, and won't have any issue finding the gay scene. On the other hand its a country where only a fifth of the population think gay sex isn't wrong and the unenforced law against gay sex still has majority public support.
- apta 7y ago
  > On the other hand its a country where only a fifth of the population think gay sex isn't wrong and the unenforced law against gay sex still has majority public support. So? Aren't people entitled to their own views and opinions.
  - AgentME 7y ago
    I guess in some sense bigotry is legally allowed, but it is pretty relevant for someone looking for a place where they'd be accepted and fit in.

1hakr 7y ago

Thanks for the feedback mate. I got this data from Spartacus website. Do you think it's not accurate? What about all the other countries? https://spartacus.gayguide.travel/blog/spartacus-gay-travel-index/ https://spartacus.gayguide.travel/blog/spartacus-gay-travel-...

netsharc 7y ago
Fucking hell, your defense against all the criticism is that "Oh it's data from some 3rd party!", which is more or less saying "not my fault!". As another has said, this is less than useless, this is dangerous. And if it's the source that's wrong, then the source is also dangerous, but you're spreading dangerously wrong information. I hope no LGBT+ person actually depends on your site, because it might get them fucking killed. Besides, having the info be country-wide is not granular enough. A gay traveller would probably feel very safe in San Francisco but not feel very safe in some little town deep in Alabama.
- mtnGoat 7y ago
  I'm a straight male and I feel uncomfortable in parts of TN, WV, AL, GA. I go there to see family and I don't like it. I feel like some of these folks don't just dislike LGBT, they dislike everyone. Downtown Seattle at 4am in cracktown is safer, then small town WV as an outsider. Edited for spelling
silencio 7y ago
that guide has such a bad reputation for a lot of queer people. the rating isn't a bad rough guide, but it is outright dangerous as a resource to people who are especially trans and gender nonconforming, and queer people traveling with their kids. if you make it clear that that's your source that's fine, but.... it needs to be more clear.

notahacker 7y ago

Yes and no. On the one hand a gay tourist is considerably less likely to be on the receiving end of homophobic beatings in Singapore than many liberal European countries, and won't have any issue finding the gay scene. On the other hand its a country where only a fifth of the population think gay sex isn't wrong and the unenforced law against gay sex still has majority public support.

apta 7y ago
> On the other hand its a country where only a fifth of the population think gay sex isn't wrong and the unenforced law against gay sex still has majority public support. So? Aren't people entitled to their own views and opinions.
- AgentME 7y ago
  I guess in some sense bigotry is legally allowed, but it is pretty relevant for someone looking for a place where they'd be accepted and fit in.