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If you happen to be in the same spot for a few months, I highly recommend building your own PC. More information on why laptops don't work: https://www.youtube

by tony 7y ago

If you happen to be in the same spot for a few months, I highly recommend building your own PC. More information on why laptops don't work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947op8yKJRY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947op8yKJRY I've been through so many laptops. After I tried a desktop in 2019, I can't seriously consider a laptop, unless in a pinch. Even so-called "beefy" workstations, e.g. W series Thinkpads, I've returned. They throttle too. You want to know what beats a $3500 Macbook Pro? For me, a desktop with "ok" parts and water cooling. You'll never have a fan issue. You get to use high quality parts that are replaceable with their own warranty. Even the cables are super high grade. And you still come in at a third of the cost, slightly more than half the cost if you want to splurge. You'll never have slowdowns. You can power multiple 4k monitors, ultrawides, whatever you want. It boils down to keeping all these parts in a small chassis. If Apple cared, they'd stop the soldering and add an inch and half thickness and let the thing ventilate, because these things are built for consumption, not creation (e.g. being under an intensive rendering/compilation/io workload).

clSTophEjUdRanu 7y ago
I have a W541with a 4910MQ and haven't seen it throttle.
petersellers 7y ago
You don't even need watercooling for really good thermal control on a desktop. Companies like Noctua make CPU fans that are just as effective, quieter, and are less complex than watercoolers (and I say this having built a watercooled system in the past year). Watercoolers do have fans, so not only can you run into potential "fan issues" but you can also have a "pump issue" on top of that.
- Matthias247 7y ago
  +1 on that. High quality air coolers are great options. They can still be super silent and are nearly maintainance free. I had higher end thermalright fan cooler on my old desktop and it run without issues for 6 years with multiple hours per day usage. For my new desktop I invested in a be quiet dark rock pro and hopes it will do the same. Noctua also has great options, and other companies too. But don’t try to save too much on coolers. The lower end models might be cheaper, but having to deal with less noise is so much worth 50$ extra over a couple of years.
wlesieutre 7y ago
Watercooling is probably overkill unless you want to overclock. Less complicated than it used to be though, Corsair and similar sell complete CPU/pump/radiator loops for relatively cheap that you just drop in.
arvinsim 7y ago
I think the problem in PC land that small form factor solutions are hard to build or approaching the price of the Mac counterpart. That being said, I am keen on creating an SFF build in the future.

by tony 7y ago

clSTophEjUdRanu 7y ago

I have a W541with a 4910MQ and haven't seen it throttle.

petersellers 7y ago

You don't even need watercooling for really good thermal control on a desktop. Companies like Noctua make CPU fans that are just as effective, quieter, and are less complex than watercoolers (and I say this having built a watercooled system in the past year). Watercoolers do have fans, so not only can you run into potential "fan issues" but you can also have a "pump issue" on top of that.

Matthias247 7y ago
+1 on that. High quality air coolers are great options. They can still be super silent and are nearly maintainance free. I had higher end thermalright fan cooler on my old desktop and it run without issues for 6 years with multiple hours per day usage. For my new desktop I invested in a be quiet dark rock pro and hopes it will do the same. Noctua also has great options, and other companies too. But don’t try to save too much on coolers. The lower end models might be cheaper, but having to deal with less noise is so much worth 50$ extra over a couple of years.

wlesieutre 7y ago

Watercooling is probably overkill unless you want to overclock. Less complicated than it used to be though, Corsair and similar sell complete CPU/pump/radiator loops for relatively cheap that you just drop in.

arvinsim 7y ago

I think the problem in PC land that small form factor solutions are hard to build or approaching the price of the Mac counterpart. That being said, I am keen on creating an SFF build in the future.