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I am really hoping to keep my macbook, the One True macbook, Macbook Pro 2015, and that it will last and be healthy until apple finally starts making stuff that

I am really hoping to keep my macbook, the One True macbook, Macbook Pro 2015, and that it will last and be healthy until apple finally starts making stuff that doesn't break again.

chipotle_coyote 7y ago
Nearly everyone else in this thread is saying that their 16" MBP is fine. My roommate has one -- I'm not sure it's completely maxed out, but it's pretty hefty spec-wise -- and hasn't had any issues, either. Personally, I just don't want a laptop that big -- I've always preferred the 13" models to the 15". So I'm waiting to see what happens with both the 13" MBP and the Air.
- shishy 7y ago
  Is there any word on whether they'll release this in 13"? I'm still holding out on my 2015 MBP as well, hoping to get the new 13" with the good keyboard. Otherwise... surface book it is...
  - rorykoehler 7y ago
    They'll release it in 13 but it will be a 14 actually. Coming this quarter supposedly.
  - chipotle_coyote 7y ago
    Apple almost never pre-announces products, so we don't really know, but they've strongly hinted the new keyboard is coming to at least the 13" MBP in the next revision. I don't remember the exact phrasing, but it was a comment from VP Phil Schiller something like "it's important for all our 'Pro' products." (I remember it was something that made it unclear whether the keyboard will come to the Air, although I certainly hope it will.) I did see the comment from someone saying it'll be upgraded to a 14" the way the 15" became a 16"; while that's a reasonable guess, I don't think there are any supply chain rumors supporting that yet, and the 16" update had rumors nearly a year in advance of its release. My personal expectation is that we'll see an upgrade to the new keyboard in the 13" before WWDC, but it'll stay 13".
  - ansonhoyt 7y ago
    Apple filed an upcoming model A2289 that is rumored to be a 13" replacement [1]. I'm waiting for this too. [1] https://www.macrumors.com/2020/01/13/apple-a2289-mac-eurasian-database/ https://www.macrumors.com/2020/01/13/apple-a2289-mac-eurasia...
ksec 7y ago
Same here. Tried the "new" Magic Keyboard. To me it feels just the same as butterfly, which is crap. Not entirely sure if I will buy another Mac again. Cant believe in less than 10 years since Steve passed away I am thinking of going back to Windows.
- jonpurdy 7y ago
  This is unfortunate. Bought a top of the line used 2015 13” in 2017 to hold me down for the long term until they fixed the keyboard. Haven’t tried one yet but I’m worried I’ll feel the same as you do about it. Though it was the inverted-T that I was most hoping for!
  - technodelic 7y ago
    I personally think it's a huge upgrade from the butterfly keyboard. I've got a 16" I just upgraded to at home, and an older 15" I was issued at work. The higher key travel and further spacing apart from each individual key means I can actually differentiate between keys by feel, unlike with the older butterfly keys that all kind of blend together. The travel makes a huge difference in feel as well, as they're much less clicky. If you're ever near a store carrying the newer model and an older butterfly model I suggest you try it out yourself.

I am really hoping to keep my macbook, the One True macbook, Macbook Pro 2015, and that it will last and be healthy until apple finally starts making stuff that doesn't break again.

chipotle_coyote 7y ago

Nearly everyone else in this thread is saying that their 16" MBP is fine. My roommate has one -- I'm not sure it's completely maxed out, but it's pretty hefty spec-wise -- and hasn't had any issues, either. Personally, I just don't want a laptop that big -- I've always preferred the 13" models to the 15". So I'm waiting to see what happens with both the 13" MBP and the Air.

shishy 7y ago
Is there any word on whether they'll release this in 13"? I'm still holding out on my 2015 MBP as well, hoping to get the new 13" with the good keyboard. Otherwise... surface book it is...
- rorykoehler 7y ago
  They'll release it in 13 but it will be a 14 actually. Coming this quarter supposedly.
- chipotle_coyote 7y ago
  Apple almost never pre-announces products, so we don't really know, but they've strongly hinted the new keyboard is coming to at least the 13" MBP in the next revision. I don't remember the exact phrasing, but it was a comment from VP Phil Schiller something like "it's important for all our 'Pro' products." (I remember it was something that made it unclear whether the keyboard will come to the Air, although I certainly hope it will.) I did see the comment from someone saying it'll be upgraded to a 14" the way the 15" became a 16"; while that's a reasonable guess, I don't think there are any supply chain rumors supporting that yet, and the 16" update had rumors nearly a year in advance of its release. My personal expectation is that we'll see an upgrade to the new keyboard in the 13" before WWDC, but it'll stay 13".
- ansonhoyt 7y ago
  Apple filed an upcoming model A2289 that is rumored to be a 13" replacement [1]. I'm waiting for this too. [1] https://www.macrumors.com/2020/01/13/apple-a2289-mac-eurasian-database/ https://www.macrumors.com/2020/01/13/apple-a2289-mac-eurasia...

ksec 7y ago

Same here. Tried the "new" Magic Keyboard. To me it feels just the same as butterfly, which is crap. Not entirely sure if I will buy another Mac again. Cant believe in less than 10 years since Steve passed away I am thinking of going back to Windows.

jonpurdy 7y ago
This is unfortunate. Bought a top of the line used 2015 13” in 2017 to hold me down for the long term until they fixed the keyboard. Haven’t tried one yet but I’m worried I’ll feel the same as you do about it. Though it was the inverted-T that I was most hoping for!
- technodelic 7y ago
  I personally think it's a huge upgrade from the butterfly keyboard. I've got a 16" I just upgraded to at home, and an older 15" I was issued at work. The higher key travel and further spacing apart from each individual key means I can actually differentiate between keys by feel, unlike with the older butterfly keys that all kind of blend together. The travel makes a huge difference in feel as well, as they're much less clicky. If you're ever near a store carrying the newer model and an older butterfly model I suggest you try it out yourself.