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Occam's razor would indicate that those too-good-to-be-true cables by a no-name Amazon seller are probably not genuine.
by akersten 7y ago
Occam's razor would indicate that those too-good-to-be-true cables by a no-name Amazon seller are probably not genuine.
- scarface74 7y agoI’ve ordered them, they work.
- FireBeyond 7y agoCounterfeit [lots of things] work, that doesn't negate the point. "If Rolex's cost $6,000+, how come I can buy one in the Bronx for $20?" "It's probably not real." "I bought it, it works."
- scarface74 7y agoIt’s a cable. Having a genuine Apple certified cable means no more than buying a cheap HDMI cable instead of the $50 Monster cable back in the day.
- FireBeyond 7y agoApple licenses the connector and validates it via a chip. I entirely get what you're saying. But the chip is counterfeit, so the company doesn't pay the licensing cost, that's why the cable is "so cheap". Nothing to do with audiophile-esque tendencies. More that your 5 pack of cables would cost $14+(5*$4, the current license price) if it were that way. No-one's disputing that you can buy cheap cables that will work (until they don't, because who knows what else was skimped on), just that you don't in any way shape or form have Apple to thank for that, it's entirely _in spite of_ Apple.
- scarface74 7y agoWhether are not the cables are quality or not is different than whether they are licensed. You would make the same decisions if they use USB C with regard to quality. It’s amazing that the same people who are worried about not having genuine Apple certified cables are probably the same people who want Apple to open up the iPhone to allow side loading.
- kalleboo 7y agoI would debate that. They have 40% 1-star reviews like "BUYER BEWARE", "Doesn't work", "Absolute garbage", "Trash", "Stopped working after a week"
- scarface74 7y agoSo now are you saying that you are in favor of Apple’s “Walled garden” to ensure quality? If you are worried about quality cables that must pass some type of certifications doesn’t that argue for proprietary cables where Apple ensures the quality? Shouldn’t in that case Apple lock down cables more?
- kalleboo 7y agoI'm not saying I'm in favor of anything, just that you bought some cheap unlicensed chinese garbage off of Amazon doesn't prove that Apple doesn't charge a $4/connector license fee. Amazon is well known for selling piles of counterfeit crap
- scarface74 7y agoSo it’s counterfeit because it’s not license. What do you think is going to happen when you buy cheap USB C cables? On one one hand, everyone is arguing that Apple’s proprietary cables are cynical attempt to make money and they shouldn’t have that control and people should have the choice. Now I am showing you they already have that choice.
- kalleboo 7y agoUSB is also licensed, it's just far cheaper. The USB license is more about making things compatible rather than making money. > What do you think is going to happen when you buy cheap USB C cables? I can buy licensed USB-C cables from reputable brands for cheaper than I can buy licensed Lightning cables from reputable brands. And the USB-C cables are more complex to manufacture. One example is Amazon Basics. > Now I am showing you they already have that choice. People will always have the choice to buy anything as long as cash exists. But if you want to buy something that is quality, you will look to a reputable brand. A reputable brand will be economically successful, so it is a target for lawsuits, so they will always enter a license. If the license for Lighting costs more than the license for USB, then a consumer who wants to buy a quality cable will always pay more.