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I suspect a major factor in keeping the Lightning stuff is also because of how intense the complaining would be if they switched it to USB-C. The introduction o

I suspect a major factor in keeping the Lightning stuff is also because of how intense the complaining would be if they switched it to USB-C. The introduction of Lightning got endless negative PR over all the old 30-pin accessories, and this would be that plus the extra complaining about how they keep "constantly" changing it. For similar reasons, I suspect there's at least some factions in Apple that would be secretly pleased with a mandated switch to USB-C, because then they'd be able to get past it by redirecting any complaints to the government involved.

alt_f4 7y ago
It's not quite an apt comparison because the vast majority of people already own USB-C chargers and accessories, whereas lightning was a brand new thing. Also if Apple were that bothered by complaining, it would not have taken them 5 years and 3+ years of service programs to replace their laptops' butterfly keyboards with regular scissors switch keyboards.
- uxp100 7y ago
  The vast majority? I suspect that is very very wrong. I own a single device that has a USB C port, and no peripherals that connect to it without an adapter, and I post on HN. It is very early for USBC yet.
  - ksec 7y ago
    Thank You. Apart from my "returned" MacBook Pro, I dont own a single USB-C cable or devices that supports it.
- tridentlead 7y ago
  Trust me, the vast majority of people do not own USB-C accessories.
- scarface74 7y ago
  The vast majority have USB C cables? Why would I own any USB C chargers as an iPhone user? Not even most Android phones support USB C.
  - thomasahle 7y ago
    > Why would I own any USB C chargers as an iPhone user? Maybe you own a USB-C laptop or tablet? Maybe even from the same company?
    - kortilla 7y ago
      No? iPad Pro and MacBook sales are a drop in the bucket compared to iPhone.
      - alt_f4 7y ago
        And iPhone sales a drop in the bucket compared to Android phone sales. And they all have USB-C.
        scarface74 7y ago
        Well as far as “all Android phones have USB-C”, a quick Google search for Android phones on Amazon brings me to this link: https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Unlocked-Smartphone-Dual-Lens-Expandable/dp/B078NCL7GK https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Unlocked-Smartphone-Dual-Lens-E... “Whats in the box:phone, power/wall charger, Micro USB cable and sim ejection tool.”
        alt_f4 7y ago
        So, you found a phone released in 2017. From Huawei. Super cheap. That isn't even sold in the US. Where all the reviews read: "Honor 7X has the distinction of being one of the last phones to feature a micro USB port for charging instead of USB-C. Blame the price if you must..." Well done.

alt_f4 7y ago

It's not quite an apt comparison because the vast majority of people already own USB-C chargers and accessories, whereas lightning was a brand new thing. Also if Apple were that bothered by complaining, it would not have taken them 5 years and 3+ years of service programs to replace their laptops' butterfly keyboards with regular scissors switch keyboards.

uxp100 7y ago
The vast majority? I suspect that is very very wrong. I own a single device that has a USB C port, and no peripherals that connect to it without an adapter, and I post on HN. It is very early for USBC yet.
- ksec 7y ago
  Thank You. Apart from my "returned" MacBook Pro, I dont own a single USB-C cable or devices that supports it.
tridentlead 7y ago
Trust me, the vast majority of people do not own USB-C accessories.
scarface74 7y ago
The vast majority have USB C cables? Why would I own any USB C chargers as an iPhone user? Not even most Android phones support USB C.
- thomasahle 7y ago
  > Why would I own any USB C chargers as an iPhone user? Maybe you own a USB-C laptop or tablet? Maybe even from the same company?
  - kortilla 7y ago
    No? iPad Pro and MacBook sales are a drop in the bucket compared to iPhone.
    - alt_f4 7y ago
      And iPhone sales a drop in the bucket compared to Android phone sales. And they all have USB-C.
      - scarface74 7y ago
        Well as far as “all Android phones have USB-C”, a quick Google search for Android phones on Amazon brings me to this link: https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Unlocked-Smartphone-Dual-Lens-Expandable/dp/B078NCL7GK https://www.amazon.com/Honor-Unlocked-Smartphone-Dual-Lens-E... “Whats in the box:phone, power/wall charger, Micro USB cable and sim ejection tool.”
        alt_f4 7y ago
        So, you found a phone released in 2017. From Huawei. Super cheap. That isn't even sold in the US. Where all the reviews read: "Honor 7X has the distinction of being one of the last phones to feature a micro USB port for charging instead of USB-C. Blame the price if you must..." Well done.