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I suspect that whatever replaces Linux will probably involve a paradigm shift at the lowest level. Perhaps capability-based IPC, perhaps seamlessly integrating

I suspect that whatever replaces Linux will probably involve a paradigm shift at the lowest level. Perhaps capability-based IPC, perhaps seamlessly integrating local and networked nodes, etc. It’s going to take major major improvements to move the world off of the Linux kernel.

monocasa 7y ago
I imagine it's going to be an exokernel that can run pretty arbitrary user lands as if they were containers, built on cap based security. If anyone agrees with me and wants to help out making that happen on an open source code base, hit me up.
- dnautics 7y ago
  I don't have time to work on this, but I highly recommend looking at using the erlang Virtual machine as your exokernel environment.
  - SkyMarshal 7y ago
    Why BEAM? I know it’s good, just curious why this specific use case.
- ummonk 7y ago
  Yes, that's definitely where things should be going. Definitely interested, though I don't have too much time to dedicate for an open source project.
- Geezus42 7y ago
  What kind of help do you need?
  - Geezus42 7y ago
    https://geezus42.github.io/personal-website/ https://geezus42.github.io/personal-website/
- wyldfire 7y ago
  How different is this from the NT kernel? Or Fuchsia?
- dannyobrien 7y ago
  I'm seeing a few people heading in this direction (and wrote very provisionally about possible wider applications here: https://mastodon.social/@mala/103548286708316253 https://mastodon.social/@mala/103548286708316253 ). I think it's certainly an idea that's in the air.
- jhvkjhk 7y ago
  Is Qubes OS what you are talking? I heard it can run Windows or Linux like containers on it.
  - blattimwind 7y ago
    Qubes = Xen hypervisor
- eyberg 7y ago
  Have you looked at https://github.com/nanovms/nanos https://github.com/nanovms/nanos yet? What you are describing is fairly close and this is under active development.
ErotemeObelus 7y ago
I want to name my kernel Lennox
Aloha 7y ago
You just described s hybrid of OS/400 and Plan 9.
quietbritishjim 7y ago
You could be right, but it's interesting to note that Linux took off because it was actually trying not to be too ambitious. I can't find it now, but I think Linus's original email announcing it said something along the lines of it just being a toy project for experimentation, and not a "proper" OS like the one GNU is building. As you're probably aware, the kernel of the GNU OS, Hurd, involved am ambitious microkernel design, and now 30 years into its development it's still not usable.
- moron4hire 7y ago
  That has more to do with the people involved than that they were microkernels.

monocasa 7y ago

I imagine it's going to be an exokernel that can run pretty arbitrary user lands as if they were containers, built on cap based security. If anyone agrees with me and wants to help out making that happen on an open source code base, hit me up.

dnautics 7y ago
I don't have time to work on this, but I highly recommend looking at using the erlang Virtual machine as your exokernel environment.
- SkyMarshal 7y ago
  Why BEAM? I know it’s good, just curious why this specific use case.
ummonk 7y ago
Yes, that's definitely where things should be going. Definitely interested, though I don't have too much time to dedicate for an open source project.
Geezus42 7y ago
What kind of help do you need?
- Geezus42 7y ago
  https://geezus42.github.io/personal-website/ https://geezus42.github.io/personal-website/
wyldfire 7y ago
How different is this from the NT kernel? Or Fuchsia?
dannyobrien 7y ago
I'm seeing a few people heading in this direction (and wrote very provisionally about possible wider applications here: https://mastodon.social/@mala/103548286708316253 https://mastodon.social/@mala/103548286708316253 ). I think it's certainly an idea that's in the air.
jhvkjhk 7y ago
Is Qubes OS what you are talking? I heard it can run Windows or Linux like containers on it.
- blattimwind 7y ago
  Qubes = Xen hypervisor
eyberg 7y ago
Have you looked at https://github.com/nanovms/nanos https://github.com/nanovms/nanos yet? What you are describing is fairly close and this is under active development.

ErotemeObelus 7y ago

I want to name my kernel Lennox

Aloha 7y ago

You just described s hybrid of OS/400 and Plan 9.

quietbritishjim 7y ago

You could be right, but it's interesting to note that Linux took off because it was actually trying not to be too ambitious. I can't find it now, but I think Linus's original email announcing it said something along the lines of it just being a toy project for experimentation, and not a "proper" OS like the one GNU is building. As you're probably aware, the kernel of the GNU OS, Hurd, involved am ambitious microkernel design, and now 30 years into its development it's still not usable.

moron4hire 7y ago
That has more to do with the people involved than that they were microkernels.