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You don't need anything but the cable that came with your phone.
by GeekyBear 7y ago
You don't need anything but the cable that came with your phone.
- monocasa 7y agoWhereas the entire point of the regulation is to not need the cord that came with your phone, but to use anyone's. They got tired of all the proprietary connectors back in the feature phone days.
- eanzenberg 7y agoSo they missed the boat by 15 years?
- monocasa 7y agoThey passed this 15 years ago. They gave apple the benefit of the doubt with the 30 pin connector and lightning that apple was going to make them standards, apple hasn't made that happen, so now the EU is saying they have to use an actual standard.
- bpfrh 7y agoAFAIK that is the directive that that was already planned years ago. I remember many years ago there was a new charger for each version(!) of a phone, so the EU said either the companies choose a common port voluntary or they will regulate them. That was 2009 shortly after that every major phone provider switched to micro usb, except of course apple. 2014 the first regulation was voted and should have went in effect 2017.
- ashildr 7y agoSo what specific kind of USB-C cable will be allowed to be packed with my next shiny for the decades to come? What kind of USB-PD will the phone be allowed to support and - if the phone supports a higher voltage/amperage combination than the EU fixed in 2020 - will I have to buy an additional cable to support this? How did we ever switch from SCART to HDMI after the EU forced the TV manufacturers to only support SCART in 1996? Oh, it didn’t. This is complete and utter nonsense. Apple’s powerplugs for iPhone/iPad only ever came with USB-A - or now with USB-C. They thankfully switched their lightning port before USB-C was even published, when everybody was still selling broken micro-USB or barrel connectors. There are many problems to solve, but Lightning isn’t one.
- monocasa 7y agoThey had no problem allowing USB-C quickly, why would the next one be different?
- judge2020 7y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22204605 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22204605
- monocasa 7y agoThe rule was in place ten years ago. That's why every other manufacturer ships USB now, and even Apple puts USB on one side of their charger cord in malicious compliance.
- samatman 7y agoiPhones have charged via USB since the first model.
- mokus 7y agoAnd iPods as well since they switched from FireWire, another open standard.
- djannzjkzxn 7y agoI’ve been using lightning happily since my non-Apple devices were coming with broken micro USB cables. As a consumer I’ve been very happy with this. There’s nothing malicious about it.
- nojvek 7y agoMacs come with usb-c. Why can’t iPhones be also usb-c? I’m not sure I fully understand why everything in the world can’t be usb-c?
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- GeekyBear 7y agoIf the cord was still hard wired into the charger like the old days, you would have a point, but this is supposedly about the chargers.
- tokamak-teapot 7y agoI thought it was to reduce materials waste from making and disposing of the chargers themselves.
- DangitBobby 7y agoAren't these cables notorious for fraying and breaking? https://frayedlightningcables.tumblr.com/ https://frayedlightningcables.tumblr.com/ Anecdotally, my friends' cables always seem to be frayed. I personally have not owned an apple phone in many years, but I recently bought an apple brand usb-c to 3.5mm adapter at an airport because that's all they had and I forgot mine at home... It stopped working after about a month of very gentle use. It's in perfect physical condition. The point is, if you have to keep replacing them, it's not a reduction in e-waste and runs counter to the spirit of the ruling.
- djannzjkzxn 7y agoIs this any better than the cables that come with non-Apple devices? I’m skeptical.
- riffraff 7y agoI don't have a clue on how bad apple cables are, but I own a few micro USB cables for phones and Kindles that never frayed, so I don't think so. The only cable that stopped working was one for a power bank I got as some marketing swag, and that's only because I bent the plug.
- DangitBobby 7y agoI have the dongle that came with my phone, and I ordered a second of the same kind from the website. No issues with either of them. I've personally never broken a charging cable of any sort, except for micro USB where the little prongs stop latching properly. I may just be unusually careful with mine.
- Symbiote 7y agoI check the electronic waste bin in my apartment building every so often, there's often something interesting I can try and fix. There are always broken Apple charger cables. They don't have a rubber grommit on the end of the cables, so they wear out. Android or PC laptop cables that are in the bin are usually in working order, with an obsolete device.
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