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A big problem with giving hate mongers a platform is that they do not return the courtesy. Try posting a well-written and well-thought-out criticism of Trump o

A big problem with giving hate mongers a platform is that they do not return the courtesy. Try posting a well-written and well-thought-out criticism of Trump on /r/thedonald and see how many seconds it takes before the post is taken down and you are banned. They are not interested in disagreement, tolerance and diversity. They are only interested in having a platform to spew their hate from.

austincheney 7y ago
That is why moderation and balance are important. r/thedonald is an echo chamber lacking balance, and therefore lacking tolerance, diversity, and mutual respect.
pnako 7y ago
That's a problem with reddit, whose narrow-focused subreddits encourage groupthink. It's not specific to Trump, I'm sure doing the same in pro-Sanders or pro-Warren subreddits will have the same effect. Or indeed pro-Rihanna or pro-Metallica subreddits. You'll have better luck with 4chan. People will call you a lot of bad words for sure, but they will also debate your point to death.
- hasbot 7y ago
  I remember when /r/politics was full of conservatives, right-wingers, the tea party, what have you. People would ask them to elaborate on their position, ask for references, or point out the flaws in their logic. The response? Moving the goalpost. Or "both sides do it." After a while, I ignored them because it wasn't worth my time to debate them. We won in a way; conservatives eventually stopped bothering to comment in /r/politics and retreated to their safe spaces.
gotoeleven 7y ago
well to be fair r/thedonald exists because this exact thing happens to trump supporters in r/politics people love echo chambers it turns out. It's no surprise that all the big platforms are evolving to provide them. I think the market for well reasoned argument is smaller than OP thinks.
- thepangolino 7y ago
  R/the Donald is a self described circlejerk community. Your well thought long essay should be posted on R/ask the Donald.
im3w1l 7y ago
So on the one hand we have a group that wants to have one (1) subreddit for themselves. And on the other we have a group that wants all subreddits for themselves. Seems like two different things entirely.

austincheney 7y ago

That is why moderation and balance are important. r/thedonald is an echo chamber lacking balance, and therefore lacking tolerance, diversity, and mutual respect.

pnako 7y ago

That's a problem with reddit, whose narrow-focused subreddits encourage groupthink. It's not specific to Trump, I'm sure doing the same in pro-Sanders or pro-Warren subreddits will have the same effect. Or indeed pro-Rihanna or pro-Metallica subreddits. You'll have better luck with 4chan. People will call you a lot of bad words for sure, but they will also debate your point to death.

hasbot 7y ago
I remember when /r/politics was full of conservatives, right-wingers, the tea party, what have you. People would ask them to elaborate on their position, ask for references, or point out the flaws in their logic. The response? Moving the goalpost. Or "both sides do it." After a while, I ignored them because it wasn't worth my time to debate them. We won in a way; conservatives eventually stopped bothering to comment in /r/politics and retreated to their safe spaces.

gotoeleven 7y ago

well to be fair r/thedonald exists because this exact thing happens to trump supporters in r/politics people love echo chambers it turns out. It's no surprise that all the big platforms are evolving to provide them. I think the market for well reasoned argument is smaller than OP thinks.

thepangolino 7y ago
R/the Donald is a self described circlejerk community. Your well thought long essay should be posted on R/ask the Donald.

im3w1l 7y ago

So on the one hand we have a group that wants to have one (1) subreddit for themselves. And on the other we have a group that wants all subreddits for themselves. Seems like two different things entirely.