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Still don’t understand why I can’t just move to another country... I have a degree, no criminal records. But I need visas, permits, etc. Why all this difficulti
by fehyjn 7y ago
Still don’t understand why I can’t just move to another country... I have a degree, no criminal records. But I need visas, permits, etc. Why all this difficulties?
- stabbles 7y agoIn Europe it is rather easy :)
- fxtentacle 7y agoWithin Europe. Moving from Africa to any EU country will be very challenging, just like it would be to move to the US
- mrits 7y agoHow does anyone know you have a degree and no criminal records?
- scarejunba 7y agoIn order to obtain global mobility, I will embed into my body a microchip of your choice that reports current location and biometric information continuously, and pay up to $10k into a yearly program that will report my per-country statistics into a global database.
- fehyjn 7y agoI can prove it in embassy or whatever. Take a paper from police and a diploma from my university.
- refurb 7y agoI think the poll answers your question. It would be a little bit disruptive if 140M people suddenly moved to the US.
- zyang 7y agoI bet the food would be delicious.
- HBKXNCUO 7y agoAnd so free of pathogens.
- magila 7y agoIf we just threw open the flood gates sure, but that's far from the only option. Simply increasing the immigration quotas gradually year-over-year would eventually allow an equilibrium to be reached without creating a large shock to the economy.
- bassman9000 7y agoAnd I bet the imported values would be exactly the same as the ones held by the current citizens.
- pmiller2 7y agoThe poll says ~140M would migrate to the US if they could. That’s very different from saying 140M people would show up at our doorstep if we opened borders. It also says that 1/6 of Americans would leave if they could. You are ignoring these important qualifiers. Edit: it’s actually 158M who would migrate to the US if they could, and ~55M Americans who would leave, for a total net inflow of 103M, if everyone could magically teleport to a new country on a one time basis.
- baybal2 7y ago> Still don’t understand why I can’t just move to another country... I have a degree, no criminal records. But I need visas, permits, etc. Why all this difficulties? If you are living in first world country, you should know that you still have it very very easy. To some, a chance to move is a once in a lifetime opportunity.
- tridentlead 7y agoWhile no criminal records is definitely a plus, and a degree is also a good thing, neither of those are what bind a nation together.
- fehyjn 7y agoIsn’t cities and places are to connect different people? I will embrace the culture of a nation, if I move. That’s just the fact that you need to adopt. But I don’t see a reason for it being a hinder to choosing where people want to live.
- eximius 7y agoExample: San Francisco. Immigration policies aren't just about 'keeping the bad ones out', it's also about 'hey, how many people can we realistically bring into this economy over a given timeframe'?
- asdfasgasdgasdg 7y agoIf bringing people into the SF economy were actually a policy goal, you'd see very different policies deployed to that end. In fact, it seems like what's been decided is that we ought not bring more people into the economy (not because it's infeasible, just because we don't want to), so we are going to make it as painful as we possibly can.
- blackswan101 7y agoCompletely agree. SF is starting to see its set of socio-economic and cultural challenges and the situation might get worse before/if it gets better. A city of 800k can not take the bunt of 2M people without there being consequences. Local Govt policies aren't helping either.
- skywhopper 7y agoYou have to couple immigration policies with compatible housing, zoning, and social policies. Immigration policy is not the only lever.
- ravenstine 7y agoBecause different groups of people have their own interests, shared culture, etc. Just because you don't mind a homogeneous global culture doesn't meant that others do or should.
- streb-lo 7y agoWhy should people in CA let people from OK move there? They probably have more in common with major metropolises world-wide than they do a rural farming community they happen to share a nation with. People are pointing out the hypocrisy in the selective application of freedom-of-movement. There may or may not be valid reasons for this but don't pretend its grounded in self-determination.
- remarkEon 7y agoIt is absolutely grounded in self-determination. That people from CA let people from OK move there is their choice. They could levy taxes on movers to discourage this no problem. And, frankly, I bet if you put this up to a vote a lot of people in (metropolitan) California would be just fine with a policy that aimed to keep those stinking farmers away.
- learc83 7y agoYou can't levy taxes on new residents from other states. Freedom of movement within the US is recognized as a constitutional right.
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- streb-lo 7y agoWhich would be very quickly struck down by the Supreme Court, like many of the other levies/duties that have been attempted to be applied on new residents from other states.
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- jeffdavis 7y agoIn theory, if people move around a lot they have less incentive to think and act for the long term in any one place.
- gnulinux 7y agoI have a degree from US, been living here for 6 years now, been working here 2 years now, still cannot move here and need to wait about 3 more years to get a Green Card.
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- goles 7y agoNo offense intended but this strikes me as an underlying sentiment of entitlement. If we rephrase the question, "Why should this person and by extension country allow a stranger who may or may not align with their culture, politics, society, etc in for an indefinite time with no restriction?" What would be your answer?
- TheChaplain 7y agoBecause there are people who ruin it for you by fake degrees, changing identities to hide criminal activities and so on.