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> utterly farcical. He's being tortured but at least he'll get a fair trial.

by chishaku 7y ago

kmlx 7y ago
who's being tortured? assange? is this a joke?
- chishaku 7y ago
  No, it’s very serious. The article covers many serious issues with the case. Please read it.
  - wang_li 7y ago
    Claiming you’re being tortured because you’re going to have to face trial for crimes is like claiming to be tortured by people who post opinions that disagree. Absurd on its face.
    - chishaku 7y ago
      > Claiming you’re being tortured because you’re going to have to face trial No one claims this. Please read the article. If you believe the claims of the UN Special Rapporteur are without merit, please provide your evidence and/or reasoning.
      - wang_li 7y ago
        > Julian Assange has been intentionally psychologically tortured by Sweden, Britain, Ecuador and the U.S. The only thing the US has done is try to get him extradited to prosecute him. I suppose the argument can be made that he's not afraid of trial, but rather of being incarcerated for his crimes. Also the second paragraph: > And third, he is to be extradited to a country that holds people like him in prison conditions that Amnesty International has described as torture. > [...] could be tortured to death in the United States. Sorry, but these are just melodrama.
        farsicalFace 7y ago
        You seem to think U.S. prison is a just punishment for a crime. Most of the western world (including Assange) would disagree. The maximum time you can be put into solitary confinement is psychological damaging as Amnesty International reports.
plandis 7y ago
I disagree with what you're saying for a few reasons: 1. The claim that Assange is being tortured is being made by a single individual as their personal opinion, and 2. The claims of torture are from actions taken by the governments of the UK and Sweden The actions of foreign countries have no bearing on if he would get a fair trial in the US; the two ideas are not correlated at all.
- chishaku 7y ago
  1. The article covers many details. What evidence informs your personal opinion that the observations and judgement of the UN Special Rappoeteur on Torture should be discounted? 2. You seem to be indicating that actions by the UK, Sweden, and Ecuador are happening completely independent of any coordination with or influence from the US government. I don’t believe that you believe that.

> utterly farcical. He's being tortured but at least he'll get a fair trial.

kmlx 7y ago

who's being tortured? assange? is this a joke?

chishaku 7y ago
No, it’s very serious. The article covers many serious issues with the case. Please read it.
- wang_li 7y ago
  Claiming you’re being tortured because you’re going to have to face trial for crimes is like claiming to be tortured by people who post opinions that disagree. Absurd on its face.
  - chishaku 7y ago
    > Claiming you’re being tortured because you’re going to have to face trial No one claims this. Please read the article. If you believe the claims of the UN Special Rapporteur are without merit, please provide your evidence and/or reasoning.
    - wang_li 7y ago
      > Julian Assange has been intentionally psychologically tortured by Sweden, Britain, Ecuador and the U.S. The only thing the US has done is try to get him extradited to prosecute him. I suppose the argument can be made that he's not afraid of trial, but rather of being incarcerated for his crimes. Also the second paragraph: > And third, he is to be extradited to a country that holds people like him in prison conditions that Amnesty International has described as torture. > [...] could be tortured to death in the United States. Sorry, but these are just melodrama.
      - farsicalFace 7y ago
        You seem to think U.S. prison is a just punishment for a crime. Most of the western world (including Assange) would disagree. The maximum time you can be put into solitary confinement is psychological damaging as Amnesty International reports.

plandis 7y ago

I disagree with what you're saying for a few reasons: 1. The claim that Assange is being tortured is being made by a single individual as their personal opinion, and 2. The claims of torture are from actions taken by the governments of the UK and Sweden The actions of foreign countries have no bearing on if he would get a fair trial in the US; the two ideas are not correlated at all.

chishaku 7y ago
1. The article covers many details. What evidence informs your personal opinion that the observations and judgement of the UN Special Rappoeteur on Torture should be discounted? 2. You seem to be indicating that actions by the UK, Sweden, and Ecuador are happening completely independent of any coordination with or influence from the US government. I don’t believe that you believe that.