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I would prefer if they just make a ARM laptop. Seriously, why aren't there any decent ARM laptops? I know there are a few ARM/MIPS laptops out there but they ar

by clvv 16y ago

I would prefer if they just make a ARM laptop. Seriously, why aren't there any decent ARM laptops? I know there are a few ARM/MIPS laptops out there but they are all either old(new platforms are much more powerful) or comes locked.

Splines 16y ago
Seriously, why aren't there any decent ARM laptops? Because demand is extremely low? If it can't run a mass-market OS, anything you make is going to be an extremely niche product. I like the idea of an Android laptop, but I wonder how well off-the-shelf Android applications would perform on a 16x9 landscape screen with a hardware keyboard and a hard-to-use touch surface.
- clvv 16y ago
  I think Android is more optimized for touch-screen devices but I was hoping Chrome OS will bring more ARM laptops to the market. Now it seems like that's not gonna happen, but Windows 8 being ARM compatible should bring more ARM laptops to the market. Sadly that won't happen any time soon.
leon_ 16y ago
This. My laptop doesn't need to be a CPU monster. I'm mostly using it for SSH, vim and surfing the web. And I hate it when the thing heats up like an oven - especially in the summer. (No AC + summer temperatures + aluminum case = inconvenient). Just give me an ARM-book pro - without an optical drive but with an enormous battery ;)
gosub 16y ago
This is what I'm waiting for: http://armdevices.net/2011/01/07/nufront-arm-powered-laptops/ http://armdevices.net/2011/01/07/nufront-arm-powered-laptops...
ZeroGravitas 16y ago
I've looked into this before and believe the core issue is that the power to light the screen dwarfs any savings possible from ARM vs x86 so as device and screen size increases, you're getting less and less benefit from ARM power saving and losing compatibility, speed and mass production benefits of x86. Even the iPad screen is after all only 10 inches, which is tiny for a laptop, the iPhone is a ninth as big an area to light up.
- Splines 16y ago
  I think you're right. In Gingerbread, the power graph shows Display as the top user of power (probably by a factor of 3 or 4, at least), even with the display brightness down to 30. I don't have an AMOLED screen, but it'd be interesting to compare.
icefox 16y ago
The google cr-48 comes to mind.

by clvv 16y ago

Splines 16y ago

Seriously, why aren't there any decent ARM laptops? Because demand is extremely low? If it can't run a mass-market OS, anything you make is going to be an extremely niche product. I like the idea of an Android laptop, but I wonder how well off-the-shelf Android applications would perform on a 16x9 landscape screen with a hardware keyboard and a hard-to-use touch surface.

clvv 16y ago
I think Android is more optimized for touch-screen devices but I was hoping Chrome OS will bring more ARM laptops to the market. Now it seems like that's not gonna happen, but Windows 8 being ARM compatible should bring more ARM laptops to the market. Sadly that won't happen any time soon.

leon_ 16y ago

This. My laptop doesn't need to be a CPU monster. I'm mostly using it for SSH, vim and surfing the web. And I hate it when the thing heats up like an oven - especially in the summer. (No AC + summer temperatures + aluminum case = inconvenient). Just give me an ARM-book pro - without an optical drive but with an enormous battery ;)

gosub 16y ago

This is what I'm waiting for: http://armdevices.net/2011/01/07/nufront-arm-powered-laptops/ http://armdevices.net/2011/01/07/nufront-arm-powered-laptops...

ZeroGravitas 16y ago

I've looked into this before and believe the core issue is that the power to light the screen dwarfs any savings possible from ARM vs x86 so as device and screen size increases, you're getting less and less benefit from ARM power saving and losing compatibility, speed and mass production benefits of x86. Even the iPad screen is after all only 10 inches, which is tiny for a laptop, the iPhone is a ninth as big an area to light up.

Splines 16y ago
I think you're right. In Gingerbread, the power graph shows Display as the top user of power (probably by a factor of 3 or 4, at least), even with the display brightness down to 30. I don't have an AMOLED screen, but it'd be interesting to compare.

icefox 16y ago

The google cr-48 comes to mind.