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yes but it's something they've been failing at for years. People buy their phones (around the world) because they make the best hardware, but they're losing gro

by rodh257 16y ago

yes but it's something they've been failing at for years. People buy their phones (around the world) because they make the best hardware, but they're losing ground to others who can make much better software.

limmeau 16y ago
I wonder how many people bought a Nokia because it comes with free offline turn-by-turn navigation maps for most of the planet. I did then.
bad_user 16y ago
Nokia 3310 was my first phone. It had the best software and user interface of its time. Nokia 6310, featuring similar software, also dominated the market for business phones for a long time. Even when phones with color screens started to sell, people would still buy Nokia 6310 because it was reliable and easy to use. Of course it is nothing compared to today's smartphones, but you're overestimating the talent and resources required to build good software, especially when they've got all the resources and talent they need. Their problem is not that they can't write software. Their problem is the lack of focus, and this latest partnership only makes matters worse.
- ra 16y ago
  Yes, for about 5 years I wouldn't buy anything but Nokia. And it wasn't because of the hardware, it was because the interface / usability was leagues ahead of the rest.
- rodh257 16y ago
  yes their software used to be the best but that was a long time ago, and things were simpler then. From what I can tell they are cancelling all their different software efforts and focusing on making great hardware to go with Microsofts operating system. What makes you think this is making their lack of focus worse? Sounds to me like it's a step in the right direction? If they were adding WP7 to their current offerings I'd agree but I thought they weren't doing that?
- kolinko 16y ago
  No, their problem is exactly that. They can't write software. A software on 3310/6310 was much simpler than what we have today. It was hard to write because of the hardware requirements, but it was simple in design.
  - bad_user 16y ago
    Please show me a piece of software you wrote, with UI as simple as the interface on 3310/6310, but also packing as much functionality. it was simple in design The design was anything but simple. You only need to take a look at equivalent phones from Ericsson / Motorola from that time.

by rodh257 16y ago

limmeau 16y ago

I wonder how many people bought a Nokia because it comes with free offline turn-by-turn navigation maps for most of the planet. I did then.

bad_user 16y ago

Nokia 3310 was my first phone. It had the best software and user interface of its time. Nokia 6310, featuring similar software, also dominated the market for business phones for a long time. Even when phones with color screens started to sell, people would still buy Nokia 6310 because it was reliable and easy to use. Of course it is nothing compared to today's smartphones, but you're overestimating the talent and resources required to build good software, especially when they've got all the resources and talent they need. Their problem is not that they can't write software. Their problem is the lack of focus, and this latest partnership only makes matters worse.

ra 16y ago
Yes, for about 5 years I wouldn't buy anything but Nokia. And it wasn't because of the hardware, it was because the interface / usability was leagues ahead of the rest.
rodh257 16y ago
yes their software used to be the best but that was a long time ago, and things were simpler then. From what I can tell they are cancelling all their different software efforts and focusing on making great hardware to go with Microsofts operating system. What makes you think this is making their lack of focus worse? Sounds to me like it's a step in the right direction? If they were adding WP7 to their current offerings I'd agree but I thought they weren't doing that?
kolinko 16y ago
No, their problem is exactly that. They can't write software. A software on 3310/6310 was much simpler than what we have today. It was hard to write because of the hardware requirements, but it was simple in design.
- bad_user 16y ago
  Please show me a piece of software you wrote, with UI as simple as the interface on 3310/6310, but also packing as much functionality. it was simple in design The design was anything but simple. You only need to take a look at equivalent phones from Ericsson / Motorola from that time.