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I don't see this as price shaming. I see a HUGE "we don't trust these folks to begin with...". Facebook is cancer for humanity. It gives 1 and takes 50. And the

I don't see this as price shaming. I see a HUGE "we don't trust these folks to begin with...". Facebook is cancer for humanity. It gives 1 and takes 50. And then dilligently finds ways to use that 50 to hurt you, for their profit. I wouldn't trust any sensitive information with them. And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. Some random admin with god-mode that will get bribed by Saudis/<insert other criminals/dictatorships> wouldn't hesitate providing them with any data. For some organizations, the value of their data/information is worth much more than the £€$5k/10k/50k that their collaboration tools cost. CERN is one of them. I prefer to pay £€$10 per year more taxes so they don't use scum like Facebook. (angry words yes, but hey.. they tried hard to earn them feelings - perhaps if they evern become less scum-my, maybe people will trust them more)

andrepd 7y ago
>And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. Someone has been reading too many Dan Brown novels.
codeduck 7y ago
> And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. Wat.
- saalweachter 7y ago
  They have both hammers and phone books, I'm sure.
  - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
    Probably a few ladders and some cleaning agents capable of creating slippery floors scattered around their facility as well.
    - zaarn 7y ago
      I'm pretty sure you can kill people with their particle accelerator too if the particles hit you. You'd probably be int he vacuum of the accelerator though so unsure if you'd notice.
      - wlesieutre 7y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski Didn't kill him, but "fatigue of mental work increased markedly," lost hearing in one ear, and half his face was paralyzed. That was a 76 GeV proton beam, compared to the LHC at 6.5 TeV, or 85.5 times the energy per proton.
        zaarn 7y ago
        The LHC will most likely not be as tame in comparison.
    - ethbro 7y ago
      It was all well and good when it was just "Gordon, please push the sample cart into the beam."
  - blattimwind 7y ago
    Have you seen the entrances to the accelerator caverns? You really need to watch your step there, if you fall you'll die for sure! The CERN is harnessing these ancient, fundamental powers for this, we barely understand how they work... gravity.
harunurhan 7y ago
> And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life I work at CERN, no we do not.
- krapp 7y ago
  I heard CERN broke the Matrix when they accidentally opened an occult black hole with the LHC and that's why things like the cornucopia on the Fruit of the Loom logo are getting erased from reality. /s
  - ryanmercer 7y ago
    Ha, remember when those articles [1] came out claiming Musk and some other billionaires were trying to hack the simulation. cough if that was real I'm happy to work as a janitor or more cough [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/tech-billionaires-want-to-break-humans-out-of-a-computer-simulation-2016-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/tech-billionaires-want-to-br...
    - SuoDuanDao 7y ago
      This is straightforward third century gnosticism. Granted, the Matrix was inspired by that religion, but it's funny to see these old beliefs come back and be taken so literally.
      - krapp 7y ago
        The funny thing is, even if the universe was a "simulation" of some sort, there's no reason to assume that simulation is literally code running as software inside a computer as we understand those terms - yet people who believe in simulation theory seem to assume exactly that. It's understandable that the God of the gaps would be replaced by belief in ghosts in the shell in the modern day, but it's also sadly mundane and reductive as philosophies go.
        rendall 7y ago
blattimwind 7y ago
> I wouldn't trust any sensitive information with them. And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. This is a matter of GALACTIC SECURITY.
dang 7y ago
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andrepd 7y ago

>And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. Someone has been reading too many Dan Brown novels.

codeduck 7y ago

> And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. Wat.

saalweachter 7y ago
They have both hammers and phone books, I'm sure.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago
  Probably a few ladders and some cleaning agents capable of creating slippery floors scattered around their facility as well.
  - zaarn 7y ago
    I'm pretty sure you can kill people with their particle accelerator too if the particles hit you. You'd probably be int he vacuum of the accelerator though so unsure if you'd notice.
    - wlesieutre 7y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski Didn't kill him, but "fatigue of mental work increased markedly," lost hearing in one ear, and half his face was paralyzed. That was a 76 GeV proton beam, compared to the LHC at 6.5 TeV, or 85.5 times the energy per proton.
      - zaarn 7y ago
        The LHC will most likely not be as tame in comparison.
  - ethbro 7y ago
    It was all well and good when it was just "Gordon, please push the sample cart into the beam."
- blattimwind 7y ago
  Have you seen the entrances to the accelerator caverns? You really need to watch your step there, if you fall you'll die for sure! The CERN is harnessing these ancient, fundamental powers for this, we barely understand how they work... gravity.

harunurhan 7y ago

> And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life I work at CERN, no we do not.

krapp 7y ago
I heard CERN broke the Matrix when they accidentally opened an occult black hole with the LHC and that's why things like the cornucopia on the Fruit of the Loom logo are getting erased from reality. /s
- ryanmercer 7y ago
  Ha, remember when those articles [1] came out claiming Musk and some other billionaires were trying to hack the simulation. cough if that was real I'm happy to work as a janitor or more cough [1] https://www.businessinsider.com/tech-billionaires-want-to-break-humans-out-of-a-computer-simulation-2016-10 https://www.businessinsider.com/tech-billionaires-want-to-br...
  - SuoDuanDao 7y ago
    This is straightforward third century gnosticism. Granted, the Matrix was inspired by that religion, but it's funny to see these old beliefs come back and be taken so literally.
    - krapp 7y ago
      The funny thing is, even if the universe was a "simulation" of some sort, there's no reason to assume that simulation is literally code running as software inside a computer as we understand those terms - yet people who believe in simulation theory seem to assume exactly that. It's understandable that the God of the gaps would be replaced by belief in ghosts in the shell in the modern day, but it's also sadly mundane and reductive as philosophies go.
      - rendall 7y ago

blattimwind 7y ago

> I wouldn't trust any sensitive information with them. And especially CERN? These guys have info and tech to end life. This is a matter of GALACTIC SECURITY.

dang 7y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22200556 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22200556 and marked it off-topic.