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After it became clear they had no criminal intent, they decided to change the crime to one that doesn't require criminal intent. The initial charges were on "th

After it became clear they had no criminal intent, they decided to change the crime to one that doesn't require criminal intent. The initial charges were on "third-degree burglary", but then changed to "misdemeanor trespassing".

ashtonian 7y ago
... When the charge should have been dropped instead as the prosecutor and sheriff were both handed binding legal docs.
nighthawk648 7y ago
Article didn’t mention how they got caught. Further research shows it was while doing the activities. Would’ve been impressive if they got away with it...
- HenryBemis 7y ago
  > DeMercurio and Wynn were arrested in the early hours of September 11 after a dispatcher with the Dallas County sheriff’s department observed the men wandering through the closed county courthouse with dark backpacks. I understand that they didn't resist arrest: > Deputies were friendly and interested as DeMercurio and Wynn explained how they used a lock-picking device to bypass a locked front door. Looks like all participating in that initial encountered were having a laugh about this (while the dispatch center of course was running the check/authenticity of the claim). And then the politics/pissing contest started. It would have been better if they (pentesters) had bodycams to have the evidence of the whole attempt. That would give them extra defensive points in court.
  - nighthawk648 7y ago
    You think it would’ve been possible for them to evade capture? Ala mr. robot style?
    - freeone3000 7y ago
      Why? Them getting caught proves that the physical security measures worked. Job done, write the report, send it off.
    - madaxe_again 7y ago
      Getting shot is probably not a risk that they’d have been willing to take, given that they were holding (supposed) get out of jail free cards.
tehwebguy 7y ago
Exactly, DAs and prosecutors in this country have WAY to much leeway to: 1. Make a huge mistake (failing to immediately drop the charge) 2. Brush it under the rug (do nothing) 3. When caught pressing a nonsense charge with no good explanation, change the charges to something else unilaterally (!!) 4. When finally pressured enough by the public, drop the charges entirely. This case should result in D.A. / prosecutor review. The cops have an excuse but this person does not. There is no room for ego like this when people’s lives are on the line. Being charged with a crime would ruin most anyone’s life for anywhere between a few days and many years, they need to be much more careful than this.

ashtonian 7y ago

... When the charge should have been dropped instead as the prosecutor and sheriff were both handed binding legal docs.

nighthawk648 7y ago

Article didn’t mention how they got caught. Further research shows it was while doing the activities. Would’ve been impressive if they got away with it...

HenryBemis 7y ago
> DeMercurio and Wynn were arrested in the early hours of September 11 after a dispatcher with the Dallas County sheriff’s department observed the men wandering through the closed county courthouse with dark backpacks. I understand that they didn't resist arrest: > Deputies were friendly and interested as DeMercurio and Wynn explained how they used a lock-picking device to bypass a locked front door. Looks like all participating in that initial encountered were having a laugh about this (while the dispatch center of course was running the check/authenticity of the claim). And then the politics/pissing contest started. It would have been better if they (pentesters) had bodycams to have the evidence of the whole attempt. That would give them extra defensive points in court.
- nighthawk648 7y ago
  You think it would’ve been possible for them to evade capture? Ala mr. robot style?
  - freeone3000 7y ago
    Why? Them getting caught proves that the physical security measures worked. Job done, write the report, send it off.
  - madaxe_again 7y ago
    Getting shot is probably not a risk that they’d have been willing to take, given that they were holding (supposed) get out of jail free cards.

tehwebguy 7y ago

Exactly, DAs and prosecutors in this country have WAY to much leeway to: 1. Make a huge mistake (failing to immediately drop the charge) 2. Brush it under the rug (do nothing) 3. When caught pressing a nonsense charge with no good explanation, change the charges to something else unilaterally (!!) 4. When finally pressured enough by the public, drop the charges entirely. This case should result in D.A. / prosecutor review. The cops have an excuse but this person does not. There is no room for ego like this when people’s lives are on the line. Being charged with a crime would ruin most anyone’s life for anywhere between a few days and many years, they need to be much more careful than this.