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Don't forget the infamous in-group preferences they bring as soon as they take over.

president 7y ago
Not sure why you were downvoted. There have been lawsuits [1][2] about Indian nepotism in US companies. As always, people are quick to claim "racism". [1] https://qz.com/india/889524/the-us-says-oracle-is-encouraging-indians-to-hire-others-indians-and-its-killing-diversity/ https://qz.com/india/889524/the-us-says-oracle-is-encouragin... [2] https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/09/h-1b-san-jose-tech-firm-discriminated-against-non-indians-favored-visa-holders-lawsuit-claims/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/09/h-1b-san-jose-tech-fi...
m0zg 7y ago
At Microsoft we called this phenomenon the "Indocritical mass", for obvious reasons. Russians are the polar opposite of this, BTW. If a Russian is interviewing a Russian, _less_ slack will be cut than if they were interviewing anybody else.
programmertote 7y ago
You notice it as well. :) My division was managed by an Indian managing director, who succeeded a Caucasian boss prior 2018. Within 2 years of his arrival (and his departure for another company at the end of 2019), our department has the ratio of Indian to non-Indian ratio suddenly goes from around 20% to 70% (this increase in ratio accelerated because quite a few of the non-Indian people left in the past year). The guy that I mentioned above who asked for one whole month of vacation also encouraged another Indian guy to do the same and they both took off last December to India while some team members from other projects were asked to cover for their absence by the ex-managing director. Worse, that guy also somehow convinced our management to hire his then-fiance in mid 2019 directly from India as a manager. I just can't believe how he pulled these off, but I have to give it to him for being really good at getting things done the way he wants them.
- lowdose 7y ago
  Good for him and good for you you can appreciate another man running his own show. I sometimes have the feeling a lot of guys are more jealous than women.
phenkdo 7y ago
Interesting! This needs a tu quoque argument. Would you say the same about Jews in Banking/Finance? Is it jews hiring fellow jews? - how come every other cop (esp. in the Northeast) has last names like Donovan or Monahan - how come every other fireman is an O'Reilly or O'Connell - how come every landscaping or construction business is owned by a Caruso or Piretti - What about the "Patel Motels" or Dunkin & 7-11 franchises owned by Indians : on and on... Ethnic niches are nothing new and extrapolating from some anecdata (and a few lawsuits) claiming discrimination is absurd.
- booboolayla 7y ago
  Interesting! Would you say ethnic niches are the way to go in our society?

Not sure why you were downvoted. There have been lawsuits [1][2] about Indian nepotism in US companies. As always, people are quick to claim "racism". [1] https://qz.com/india/889524/the-us-says-oracle-is-encouraging-indians-to-hire-others-indians-and-its-killing-diversity/ https://qz.com/india/889524/the-us-says-oracle-is-encouragin... [2] https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/09/h-1b-san-jose-tech-firm-discriminated-against-non-indians-favored-visa-holders-lawsuit-claims/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/09/09/h-1b-san-jose-tech-fi...

m0zg 7y ago

At Microsoft we called this phenomenon the "Indocritical mass", for obvious reasons. Russians are the polar opposite of this, BTW. If a Russian is interviewing a Russian, _less_ slack will be cut than if they were interviewing anybody else.

programmertote 7y ago

You notice it as well. :) My division was managed by an Indian managing director, who succeeded a Caucasian boss prior 2018. Within 2 years of his arrival (and his departure for another company at the end of 2019), our department has the ratio of Indian to non-Indian ratio suddenly goes from around 20% to 70% (this increase in ratio accelerated because quite a few of the non-Indian people left in the past year). The guy that I mentioned above who asked for one whole month of vacation also encouraged another Indian guy to do the same and they both took off last December to India while some team members from other projects were asked to cover for their absence by the ex-managing director. Worse, that guy also somehow convinced our management to hire his then-fiance in mid 2019 directly from India as a manager. I just can't believe how he pulled these off, but I have to give it to him for being really good at getting things done the way he wants them.

lowdose 7y ago
Good for him and good for you you can appreciate another man running his own show. I sometimes have the feeling a lot of guys are more jealous than women.

phenkdo 7y ago

Interesting! This needs a tu quoque argument. Would you say the same about Jews in Banking/Finance? Is it jews hiring fellow jews? - how come every other cop (esp. in the Northeast) has last names like Donovan or Monahan - how come every other fireman is an O'Reilly or O'Connell - how come every landscaping or construction business is owned by a Caruso or Piretti - What about the "Patel Motels" or Dunkin & 7-11 franchises owned by Indians : on and on... Ethnic niches are nothing new and extrapolating from some anecdata (and a few lawsuits) claiming discrimination is absurd.

booboolayla 7y ago
Interesting! Would you say ethnic niches are the way to go in our society?