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Interestingly, Path of Exile had a bug back in the Delve (infinite dungeon) league where some characters had a RNG seed that meant they would never see certain

by hnick 7y ago

Interestingly, Path of Exile had a bug back in the Delve (infinite dungeon) league where some characters had a RNG seed that meant they would never see certain valuable items. I think such a thing would be hard to find in testing and a shuffled deck or 'pity timer' weighted-RNG approach would ameliorate it but might hide the root issue. While I'm on the topic, POE tends to use pure RNG in all cases except evasion. Evasion is a pretty useless defensive layer if you get hit 3 times in a row by random chance, ending your run, which gives a terrible game experience. So they use weighted entropy system to dial the chances up or down depending on how long since you've been hit (or since you've hit the enemy).

bigger_cheese 7y ago
Chris Wilson talks about how PoE implements RNG (and procedural generation) little bit in his GDC talk which is on youtube, he mentions one of the design pillars of the game is "multiple overlapping axis of randomness" the whole video is really good. I love the amount of randomness that exists in the game some of the items that can drop are completely build defining (legion jewels and Watcher's Eyes for example) but also hugely random if you manage to get your hands on one with interesting rolls it feels like possibilities are endless. At the same time I think they have realized players like some amount of agency as well a lot of the newer content they've introduced has semi-deterministic outcomes where player's action can influence the rewards stuff like Syndicate hideouts, incursion temple etc. Gives you some control over what items you will get at the end of the content.
- hnick 7y ago
  Yeah agreed but I think they went too far with Synthesis. The managing and placement of decaying tiles (with a limited bag space) was far too fiddly and way too much micromanagement for me. Syndicate is definitely the sweet spot but I'm glad that the simple encounters like Bestiary exist too. We need both types.

by hnick 7y ago

bigger_cheese 7y ago

Chris Wilson talks about how PoE implements RNG (and procedural generation) little bit in his GDC talk which is on youtube, he mentions one of the design pillars of the game is "multiple overlapping axis of randomness" the whole video is really good. I love the amount of randomness that exists in the game some of the items that can drop are completely build defining (legion jewels and Watcher's Eyes for example) but also hugely random if you manage to get your hands on one with interesting rolls it feels like possibilities are endless. At the same time I think they have realized players like some amount of agency as well a lot of the newer content they've introduced has semi-deterministic outcomes where player's action can influence the rewards stuff like Syndicate hideouts, incursion temple etc. Gives you some control over what items you will get at the end of the content.

hnick 7y ago
Yeah agreed but I think they went too far with Synthesis. The managing and placement of decaying tiles (with a limited bag space) was far too fiddly and way too much micromanagement for me. Syndicate is definitely the sweet spot but I'm glad that the simple encounters like Bestiary exist too. We need both types.