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I picked three of those questions and had a look at the actual data on the GSS Data Explorer: https://imgur.com/1tL4cPt https://imgur.com/1tL4cPt https://imgu

by quink 7y ago

I picked three of those questions and had a look at the actual data on the GSS Data Explorer: https://imgur.com/1tL4cPt https://imgur.com/1tL4cPt https://imgur.com/PhbXNqG https://imgur.com/PhbXNqG https://imgur.com/3efeYtU https://imgur.com/3efeYtU Let's just say it's very difficult to draw the same conclusions as this article here - small sample size, inconsistent results, etc. The actual results I found for EARTHSUN's choices "Earth around sun" and "Sun around earth" are 76.5% correct for the Clinton camp and 76.7% correct for the Trump camp. Technically still in line with one conclusion of that article, but a single respondee answering differently would have changed that outcome.

quink 7y ago
Just did the verbal stuff too: > The mean verbal ability score for Trump supporters was 6.15 words correct, while the mean verbal ability score for Clinton supporters was 5.69 correct, a difference of nearly a half a question on a 10-question test. I ran the numbers and it's 6.33 vs. 6.27. Either I'm missing something or the whole thing is wrong. Also, if I wanted to cherry-pick statistics I could also say that 13.5% of Clinton voters got either 9 or 10 answers correct, while 8.4% of Trump voters did. But with those sample sizes it's meaningless.
- verdverm 7y ago
  These sample sizes are on par with poll sizes used by 538 in their predictions.
verdverm 7y ago
I think the author's hypothesis is > Even without looking at the data, it would be surprising if there were any VERY LARGE differences in intelligence between the average Trump supporter and the rest of the general public. Which the data does seem to suggest. The sample size is sufficient for statistical significance, though I would say the difference in intelligence is not likely significant Which gets back to the author's point, that the perception espoused by CNN anchors, claiming Trump supporters are significantly less intelligent, is incorrect. > In this essay, I analyzed the results of over 30 questions from 22 different representative national surveys, involving over 20,000 respondents. Not one of the questions I examined here supports the idea that Trump supporters are significantly less knowledgeable than Clinton supporters, and some of them point to small or moderate differences in the opposite direction. The idea that there are very large differences in intelligence or knowledge here is implausible without strong evidence.
- SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
  What's sad is this SHOULD BE OBVIOUS to anyone that's be emotionally detached from politics. It's the same people on both sides, just tribalism skews that the other side must be idiots. I don't think the people opposite from me are stupid, just a different viewpoint than my own. That viewpoint comes from their experiences and their environment that is different than mine, that's totally fine, until they insist that I need to live like they do.
verdverm 7y ago
I find it surprising that nearly 1 in 4 people believe the sun revolves around the earth.

by quink 7y ago

quink 7y ago

Just did the verbal stuff too: > The mean verbal ability score for Trump supporters was 6.15 words correct, while the mean verbal ability score for Clinton supporters was 5.69 correct, a difference of nearly a half a question on a 10-question test. I ran the numbers and it's 6.33 vs. 6.27. Either I'm missing something or the whole thing is wrong. Also, if I wanted to cherry-pick statistics I could also say that 13.5% of Clinton voters got either 9 or 10 answers correct, while 8.4% of Trump voters did. But with those sample sizes it's meaningless.

verdverm 7y ago
These sample sizes are on par with poll sizes used by 538 in their predictions.

verdverm 7y ago

I think the author's hypothesis is > Even without looking at the data, it would be surprising if there were any VERY LARGE differences in intelligence between the average Trump supporter and the rest of the general public. Which the data does seem to suggest. The sample size is sufficient for statistical significance, though I would say the difference in intelligence is not likely significant Which gets back to the author's point, that the perception espoused by CNN anchors, claiming Trump supporters are significantly less intelligent, is incorrect. > In this essay, I analyzed the results of over 30 questions from 22 different representative national surveys, involving over 20,000 respondents. Not one of the questions I examined here supports the idea that Trump supporters are significantly less knowledgeable than Clinton supporters, and some of them point to small or moderate differences in the opposite direction. The idea that there are very large differences in intelligence or knowledge here is implausible without strong evidence.

SlowRobotAhead 7y ago
What's sad is this SHOULD BE OBVIOUS to anyone that's be emotionally detached from politics. It's the same people on both sides, just tribalism skews that the other side must be idiots. I don't think the people opposite from me are stupid, just a different viewpoint than my own. That viewpoint comes from their experiences and their environment that is different than mine, that's totally fine, until they insist that I need to live like they do.

verdverm 7y ago

I find it surprising that nearly 1 in 4 people believe the sun revolves around the earth.