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Coronavirus: -5,974 confirmed cases -170 deaths [1]For comparisons the SARS outbreak of 2003: -8,098 people worldwide became sick -774 died [1]https://www

Coronavirus: -5,974 confirmed cases -170 deaths [1]For comparisons the SARS outbreak of 2003: -8,098 people worldwide became sick -774 died [1]https://www.cdc.gov/sars/about/fs-sars.html https://www.cdc.gov/sars/about/fs-sars.html

guiomie 7y ago
Could you add the timeframe of each pandemic? I believe the coronavirus is 1-2 months old, but how long was SARS to get to 774? I feel like the comparaison isn't great without timeline.
- arkadiyt 7y ago
  Here are some graphs showing exactly that: https://ncov.r6.no/ https://ncov.r6.no/ It's also worth noting that the ~8k confirmed cases are bottlenecked by how fast China can perform tests. Here's an article guesstimating that there were up to 100k infections a few days ago: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/26/coronavirus-could-infect-100000-globally-experts-warn https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/26/coronavirus-...
  - alamortsubite 7y ago
    > It's also worth noting that the ~8k confirmed cases are bottlenecked by how fast China can perform tests. Do you have more info on this? I thought the test was a simple swab deal that a country like China could crank through like nobody's business. Like, at least for a few more orders of magnitude.
    - alamortsubite 7y ago
      Replying to myself, this article linked in a sibling comment discusses the issue: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/asia/chinese-health-care-virus-intl-hnk/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/asia/chinese-health-care-...
  - fuj 7y ago
    Interesting, that first link is blocked in facebook. Tried sending it to someone and couldn't
  - makomk 7y ago
    Yeah, China's healthcare system does not seem to be coping well with this: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/asia/chinese-health-care-virus-intl-hnk/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/asia/chinese-health-care-...
burundi_coffee 7y ago
There are already 8243 confirmed cases. https://thewuhanvirus.com/ https://thewuhanvirus.com/
- Symmetry 7y ago
  The number of cases reported has been going up by 30% to 70% every day. People in China are taking a number of measures to limit spread but given the potentially long contagious incubation period of the virus it might be a while for that to reduce the visible increase even if it has been relatively effective.
  - vbezhenar 7y ago
    It seems that this virus spreading too easy, so it's not possible to contain it, not now anyway. The best we can do is to slow it down and develop treatment as soon as possible to reduce number of lethal cases. But it'll infect the whole world anyway and poor countries with bad medicine system will struggle a lot.
- fctorial 7y ago
  The ui of the map on this page is eerily similar to plague inc.
  - fctorial 7y ago
    The news feed too.
steve_musk 7y ago
Just to put it in better perspective: Coronavirus: -5,974 confirmed cases -170 deaths -143 recoveries -5,661 still sick SARS: -8,098 cases -774 deaths -7,324 recoveries
- wyldfire 7y ago
  Virulence versus pathogenicity. Perhaps you contend that SARS' pathogenicity is greater than this coronavirus'? But virulence demands our attention, too. Why? Because public engagement can help prevent its spread. When AIDS/HIV was near its peak, folks would often compare it in a similar fashion to cancer. If we ignore the fact that cancer is a big diverse bucket, most/many cancers really don't have any 'virulence' so getting public attention to drive best practices to mitigate spread just don't make any sense.
  - steve_musk 7y ago
    No, I think you are misunderstanding the thread or projecting something onto the statistics.
Scarblac 7y ago
Many of those confirmed cases may still die, so that is not an apples to apples comparison. Currently the number of fully recovered people is lower than the number of deaths.
SysINT 7y ago
Genomic epidemiology of novel coronavirus (nCoV) via https://nextstrain.org/ncov https://nextstrain.org/ncov indicates a beginning last month. SARS-CoV is 13 months or so in length https://www.cdc.gov/about/history/sars/timeline.htm https://www.cdc.gov/about/history/sars/timeline.htm

guiomie 7y ago

Could you add the timeframe of each pandemic? I believe the coronavirus is 1-2 months old, but how long was SARS to get to 774? I feel like the comparaison isn't great without timeline.

arkadiyt 7y ago
Here are some graphs showing exactly that: https://ncov.r6.no/ https://ncov.r6.no/ It's also worth noting that the ~8k confirmed cases are bottlenecked by how fast China can perform tests. Here's an article guesstimating that there were up to 100k infections a few days ago: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/26/coronavirus-could-infect-100000-globally-experts-warn https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/26/coronavirus-...
- alamortsubite 7y ago
  > It's also worth noting that the ~8k confirmed cases are bottlenecked by how fast China can perform tests. Do you have more info on this? I thought the test was a simple swab deal that a country like China could crank through like nobody's business. Like, at least for a few more orders of magnitude.
  - alamortsubite 7y ago
    Replying to myself, this article linked in a sibling comment discusses the issue: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/asia/chinese-health-care-virus-intl-hnk/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/asia/chinese-health-care-...
- fuj 7y ago
  Interesting, that first link is blocked in facebook. Tried sending it to someone and couldn't
- makomk 7y ago
  Yeah, China's healthcare system does not seem to be coping well with this: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/asia/chinese-health-care-virus-intl-hnk/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/30/asia/chinese-health-care-...

burundi_coffee 7y ago

There are already 8243 confirmed cases. https://thewuhanvirus.com/ https://thewuhanvirus.com/

Symmetry 7y ago
The number of cases reported has been going up by 30% to 70% every day. People in China are taking a number of measures to limit spread but given the potentially long contagious incubation period of the virus it might be a while for that to reduce the visible increase even if it has been relatively effective.
- vbezhenar 7y ago
  It seems that this virus spreading too easy, so it's not possible to contain it, not now anyway. The best we can do is to slow it down and develop treatment as soon as possible to reduce number of lethal cases. But it'll infect the whole world anyway and poor countries with bad medicine system will struggle a lot.
fctorial 7y ago
The ui of the map on this page is eerily similar to plague inc.
- fctorial 7y ago
  The news feed too.

steve_musk 7y ago

Just to put it in better perspective: Coronavirus: -5,974 confirmed cases -170 deaths -143 recoveries -5,661 still sick SARS: -8,098 cases -774 deaths -7,324 recoveries

wyldfire 7y ago
Virulence versus pathogenicity. Perhaps you contend that SARS' pathogenicity is greater than this coronavirus'? But virulence demands our attention, too. Why? Because public engagement can help prevent its spread. When AIDS/HIV was near its peak, folks would often compare it in a similar fashion to cancer. If we ignore the fact that cancer is a big diverse bucket, most/many cancers really don't have any 'virulence' so getting public attention to drive best practices to mitigate spread just don't make any sense.
- steve_musk 7y ago
  No, I think you are misunderstanding the thread or projecting something onto the statistics.

Scarblac 7y ago

Many of those confirmed cases may still die, so that is not an apples to apples comparison. Currently the number of fully recovered people is lower than the number of deaths.

SysINT 7y ago

Genomic epidemiology of novel coronavirus (nCoV) via https://nextstrain.org/ncov https://nextstrain.org/ncov indicates a beginning last month. SARS-CoV is 13 months or so in length https://www.cdc.gov/about/history/sars/timeline.htm https://www.cdc.gov/about/history/sars/timeline.htm