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I agree. If they can get a major shareholder as even a figurehead, it would add a lot more credibility over "9 young shareholders", which means they have at lea

I agree. If they can get a major shareholder as even a figurehead, it would add a lot more credibility over "9 young shareholders", which means they have at least 1 share each.

mryall 16y ago
Yeah, in which case they'd probably be better to sell the shares than attempt to grab the helm of a sinking ship.
fleitz 16y ago
No kidding, if they could actually head a company like Nokia and create a superior UX then why not go shop your bios around SV looking for some VC to make a mobile OS. Or go shop your resume at Apple / Google / Microsoft. WinPhone 7 is light years ahead of anything I've seen from Nokia. Their naivety is betrayed when the talk about developing technology in house and then talk about Qt. If Nokia could build their own GUI toolkit they'd have no use for Qt.
- bad_user 16y ago
  They already own Qt and all intellectual property associated, so why not use it? It's also a cross-platform toolkit with a clean interface and lots of mind-share. The whole MeeGo operating system is using bits and pieces from the Linux ecosystem. There's nothing wrong with that. The difference between them using MeeGo and them using Android or WinMo 7, is that with MeeGo they have complete control, as it's their platform. WinPhone 7 is light years ahead of anything I've seen from Nokia This statement doesn't hold water. I've tried WinMo 7, and it is decent, but all I could say about it was the same as for Windows 7 ... it is not that bad, but it's late, and limited, and those animations are causing me nausea, and tell me why should I choose a Windows again when I tried so hard to get rid of it the last time? Also, speaking as a developer, porting games from iOS / Android to WinMo 7 is not really possible without a 100% complete rewrite. And what happens when they completely break backwards compatibility again for WinMo 8, like they did with 7? Now you've got 3 problems.
  - fleitz 16y ago
    Wouldn't disagree with you on porting. Backwards compat w/ WinMo 8? You rewrite your apps and get to sell them again :) Nokia has also switched from Symbian to MeeGo so what's to stop them from breaking compat? The point of directing a public company is to do so with the best interests of the shareholders, I could be wrong but I have a feeling the majority of the shareholders of Nokia would be happier with Elops plan than the plan of these guys.

I agree. If they can get a major shareholder as even a figurehead, it would add a lot more credibility over "9 young shareholders", which means they have at least 1 share each.

mryall 16y ago

Yeah, in which case they'd probably be better to sell the shares than attempt to grab the helm of a sinking ship.

fleitz 16y ago

No kidding, if they could actually head a company like Nokia and create a superior UX then why not go shop your bios around SV looking for some VC to make a mobile OS. Or go shop your resume at Apple / Google / Microsoft. WinPhone 7 is light years ahead of anything I've seen from Nokia. Their naivety is betrayed when the talk about developing technology in house and then talk about Qt. If Nokia could build their own GUI toolkit they'd have no use for Qt.

bad_user 16y ago
They already own Qt and all intellectual property associated, so why not use it? It's also a cross-platform toolkit with a clean interface and lots of mind-share. The whole MeeGo operating system is using bits and pieces from the Linux ecosystem. There's nothing wrong with that. The difference between them using MeeGo and them using Android or WinMo 7, is that with MeeGo they have complete control, as it's their platform. WinPhone 7 is light years ahead of anything I've seen from Nokia This statement doesn't hold water. I've tried WinMo 7, and it is decent, but all I could say about it was the same as for Windows 7 ... it is not that bad, but it's late, and limited, and those animations are causing me nausea, and tell me why should I choose a Windows again when I tried so hard to get rid of it the last time? Also, speaking as a developer, porting games from iOS / Android to WinMo 7 is not really possible without a 100% complete rewrite. And what happens when they completely break backwards compatibility again for WinMo 8, like they did with 7? Now you've got 3 problems.
- fleitz 16y ago
  Wouldn't disagree with you on porting. Backwards compat w/ WinMo 8? You rewrite your apps and get to sell them again :) Nokia has also switched from Symbian to MeeGo so what's to stop them from breaking compat? The point of directing a public company is to do so with the best interests of the shareholders, I could be wrong but I have a feeling the majority of the shareholders of Nokia would be happier with Elops plan than the plan of these guys.