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There is (or maybe was) a pipeline of grad students imported from India and China that are taking this risk. It makes no sense for highly qualified and by that

by sjg007 7y ago

There is (or maybe was) a pipeline of grad students imported from India and China that are taking this risk. It makes no sense for highly qualified and by that I mean "academically educated" Americans to pursue PhDs in the sciences. Even the masters programs are largely foreign students since that is a way to get an H1B.

analyst74 7y ago
An important part of the reward is American citizenship, which Americans already have, so for them, it's a high risk low reward field. As America makes it harder to immigrate, and other countries are catching up in opportunity and quality of life, there should be fewer foreigners spend many years and sacrifices in pursuit of the green card.
- adamsea 7y ago
  Or America will cut funding for science and make it more difficult to afford higher education or have a career in sciences while simultaneously making it harder to immigrate.
tensor 7y ago
If you don't have a masters or PhD you aren't "highly qualified and academically educated." And undergrad is a basic degree these days, and you aren't considered to be an academic having gotten one. I don't see what the fact that master's and PhD programs are filled with foreign students has to do with whether or not it makes sense to get a higher degree. Most of the brilliant people in North America are immigrants.
- sjg007 7y ago
  >I don't see what the fact that master's and PhD programs are filled with foreign students has to do with whether or not it makes sense to get a higher degree. It's more competitive, low pay during school and lower odds of a well paying job at the end.
- AlchemistCamp 7y ago
  I think that bit was in reference to which institution the undergrad degree was from.
- gowld 7y ago
  A US resident (citizen or child immigrant) can get a job at FANG with a bachelors. A foreigner needs a visa and a job interview, and grad school is a way to get a visa and get in reach of recruiters.

by sjg007 7y ago

analyst74 7y ago

An important part of the reward is American citizenship, which Americans already have, so for them, it's a high risk low reward field. As America makes it harder to immigrate, and other countries are catching up in opportunity and quality of life, there should be fewer foreigners spend many years and sacrifices in pursuit of the green card.

adamsea 7y ago
Or America will cut funding for science and make it more difficult to afford higher education or have a career in sciences while simultaneously making it harder to immigrate.

tensor 7y ago

If you don't have a masters or PhD you aren't "highly qualified and academically educated." And undergrad is a basic degree these days, and you aren't considered to be an academic having gotten one. I don't see what the fact that master's and PhD programs are filled with foreign students has to do with whether or not it makes sense to get a higher degree. Most of the brilliant people in North America are immigrants.

sjg007 7y ago
>I don't see what the fact that master's and PhD programs are filled with foreign students has to do with whether or not it makes sense to get a higher degree. It's more competitive, low pay during school and lower odds of a well paying job at the end.
AlchemistCamp 7y ago
I think that bit was in reference to which institution the undergrad degree was from.
gowld 7y ago
A US resident (citizen or child immigrant) can get a job at FANG with a bachelors. A foreigner needs a visa and a job interview, and grad school is a way to get a visa and get in reach of recruiters.