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....what are you talking about? This is just an update on yet another closed platform. If apple cared about elevating the discipline and righting the abuses o
by AWildC182 7y ago
....what are you talking about? This is just an update on yet another closed platform.
If apple cared about elevating the discipline and righting the abuses of big tech with their mapping app they'd partner with OpenStreetMap and make the data public rather than continuing to silo all the data about you and everyone around you.
Instead we're continuing the closed source data gathering land rush and trying to beat google at its own game.
- georgebarnett 7y agoWhy do you equate “elevating the discipline” with “give away the data?”. Are you suggesting Google didnt elevate the discipline of search because their backend is closed?
- rmc 7y agoApple Maps _is_ OpenStreetMap in many countries. In Denmark it's used for turn-by-turn navigation even. (Source: Talk by Apple employee at the OSM'a 'State of the Map' conference 2018 https://2018.stateofthemap.org/2018/T081-Working_with_the_Community/ https://2018.stateofthemap.org/2018/T081-Working_with_the_Co... )
- AWildC182 7y agoThen why not do it everywhere and upstream the changes?
- georgebarnett 7y agoWhy should Apple give away their improvements? I’m genuinely curious why you think they should do this.
- AWildC182 7y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Database_License https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Database_License Because they would be legally obligated to when using OSM as a base for anything. Also, because it would benefit society.
- lukifer 7y agoThere's a myth that the market offers rewards proportional to value provided. In reality, the market offers rewards proportional to value that can be withheld, as leverage for price negotiation. It would be a big deal to create an economic system that reliably measures and rewards benefit to society. I haven't the faintest idea how.
- wmeredith 7y agoWhy don’t you work for free? That would also benefit society. Be the change you want to see in the world.
- georgebarnett 7y agoIf Apple was legally obligated to contribute back, they would do so. They have a good history of community contribution (eg. Darwin, WebKit) so I’m willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, instead of some random anonymous internet commenter angst.
- AWildC182 7y ago....no they don't. They actively avoid the GPL versions of various things they use so they don't have to give back even though it hurts their users.
- GeekyBear 7y agoMy understanding is that Bing, Apple, and Here have all already been working with Open Street Map for years now.
- tinus_hn 7y agoYeah so wrong of them to invest millions into their map data and not immediately give it away to their competitors!