>> "Java sucks" is so 10 years ago. I mostly agree, but I also work with enterprise software products that have legacy code bases with baggage that is over 10

>> "Java sucks" is so 10 years ago. I mostly agree, but I also work with enterprise software products that have legacy code bases with baggage that is over 10 years old, so there is still a lot of Java software that sucks. We're talking about applications that take minutes to just load and display a window on otherwise fast hardware. And in some cases, the entire purpose of the application is to basically slap a GUI around an XML configuration file.