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Or we could fix the tax code so that avoiding taxation is simply not possible instead of hoping that altruistic policies will be enacted to help the working cla

Or we could fix the tax code so that avoiding taxation is simply not possible instead of hoping that altruistic policies will be enacted to help the working class. I'd love for it to be otherwise, but judging by the last several decades of policy and trends, the most likely outcome of cutting corporate taxes is more inequality and very little meaningful help to most Americans.

luxuryballs 7y ago
What I am curious about is why corporations need to pay “bonus” tax at all (other than on imports/exports or purchases of commodities/equipment), the employees and the stakeholders of the corporations (the actual people) already pay income tax, why isn’t that fair enough?
- runako 7y ago
  IANAL and this isn't the legal justification. But US corporations are treated with rights similar to actual people with slightly better treatment in some ways, slightly worse in others. So: morally corporations should pay income tax because all persons are subject to income tax. And we have decided that corporations are persons. It's no more a "bonus" tax than it is a bonus tax when I pay my accountant and she also has to pay tax on that income (even though I have already paid tax on the money).
- didibus 7y ago
  Lots of companies have employees and stakeholders in diferent countries that do not pay any taxes, yet profit from operating here. That's one reason. Another reason is distribution. You might want employees to pay no taxes at all on their salaries. And you might want shareholders to pay no money at all on their capital gains or dividends, and yet you'd want company revenue to be taxed. The big difference is in theory, a company can just rotate money within itself forever, take revenue and use it for expansion, or investment, or whatever. So all that money only gets taxed once a shareholder sells, or an employee gets paid, but a large portion gets re-invested in the company itself, which you'd want taxed as well, in order to get a steady flow of cash and also capture its real value.

luxuryballs 7y ago

What I am curious about is why corporations need to pay “bonus” tax at all (other than on imports/exports or purchases of commodities/equipment), the employees and the stakeholders of the corporations (the actual people) already pay income tax, why isn’t that fair enough?

runako 7y ago
IANAL and this isn't the legal justification. But US corporations are treated with rights similar to actual people with slightly better treatment in some ways, slightly worse in others. So: morally corporations should pay income tax because all persons are subject to income tax. And we have decided that corporations are persons. It's no more a "bonus" tax than it is a bonus tax when I pay my accountant and she also has to pay tax on that income (even though I have already paid tax on the money).
didibus 7y ago
Lots of companies have employees and stakeholders in diferent countries that do not pay any taxes, yet profit from operating here. That's one reason. Another reason is distribution. You might want employees to pay no taxes at all on their salaries. And you might want shareholders to pay no money at all on their capital gains or dividends, and yet you'd want company revenue to be taxed. The big difference is in theory, a company can just rotate money within itself forever, take revenue and use it for expansion, or investment, or whatever. So all that money only gets taxed once a shareholder sells, or an employee gets paid, but a large portion gets re-invested in the company itself, which you'd want taxed as well, in order to get a steady flow of cash and also capture its real value.