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Butler Lampson, in his lecture Hints and Principles for Computer System Design [1], has the following anecdote: I remember hearing from the chief program offic
by EdwardCoffin 7y ago
Butler Lampson, in his lecture Hints and Principles for Computer System Design [1], has the following anecdote:
I remember hearing from the chief program officer for the software of
the new joint fighter the F-35, in the US, five or so years ago. He said
"I'm the chief software program officer, and I'm absolutely certain
that the approved requirements for the software for this plane cannot
be met, and there's nothing I can do about it because there are so many
forces being brought to bear on these requirements." (45:45 - 46:18)
[1] https://www.heidelberg-laureate-forum.org/video/lecture-hints-and-principles-for-computer-system-design.html https://www.heidelberg-laureate-forum.org/video/lecture-hint... (27 August 2015)
- nabla9 7y agoThe Autonomic Logistics Information System (ALIS) system determined essential to keep F-35 flying and maintained is now scrapped and they start from beginning.
- flatfilefan 7y agoWow, that’s massive news. Could you share a link to your source please?
- mrtksn 7y agoHere: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-pentagon-f35/f-35-logistics-system-to-be-reinvented-and-renamed-official-says-idUSKBN1ZE00D https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-pentagon-f35/f-35-log...
- flatfilefan 7y agoThanks! It would be interesting to know whether purchasing countries will get sole authority in flight package definition in contrast to the ALIS where it had to be signed off in US for every sortie afaik.
- teruakohatu 7y agoThe US military signs off on every flight?!?! Surely not, but if so sounds like a great business model.
- positr0n 7y agoIIRC it was reported like that by some outlets several months ago but the truth is more like US DoD personnel had to sign some keys to get interop with friendly fighters... Communications or some other kind of data sharing, I forget.
- GhettoMaestro 7y agoTactical nets (keys) always must be loaded before ops.
- p_l 7y agoNo, that was for loading IFF keys for Austrian fighters, a completely unrelated issue. With F-35, the data packages necessary for operation in given theater are generated in one or two laboratories in USA, and so far there were no guarantees of anyone getting one of their own. In addition, ALIS was dependant on Lockheed-maintained servers in USA by design, something that made it problematic even for US forces as the amounts of data that had to be transferred were too big for ship-based units - and you needed to sync at least once a month to ensure the aircraft is capable of flying.
- nwrk 7y agoSaw/read somewhere same.
- flatfilefan 7y ago“Another scenario theorised by analysts involves the US Government using the F-35’s enabling systems to “punish” a non-cooperative ally, potentially by withdrawing software upgrades or feeding information that would ground the entire fleet.“ https://defence.nridigital.com/global_defence_technology_mar19/back_door_for_hackers_f-35_cyber_weaknesses_in_the_spotlight https://defence.nridigital.com/global_defence_technology_mar... There’s more. I just couldn’t find it quickly.
- nl 7y agoand they start from beginning It sounds more like they switch to an existing system that works. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-pentagon-f35/f-35-logistics-system-to-be-reinvented-and-renamed-official-says-idUSKBN1ZE00D https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-pentagon-f35/f-35-log...
- acqq 7y ago> works. I wouldn't be so sure: "ODIN will be based in the cloud and designed to deliver data in near real time on aircraft and system performance under heightened cyber security provisions, Lord said." Independently of that "cloud based" ODIN as a replacement of ALIS ("Autonomic Logistics Information System"), the mentioned ALIS doesn't seem to me as what Lampson's source worried about.