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I rode a bicycle yesterday on market Street and there were cops everywhere. I'll let you know today. Typically there are a lot of police up and down Market st

I rode a bicycle yesterday on market Street and there were cops everywhere. I'll let you know today. Typically there are a lot of police up and down Market street. I will personally stop my bicycle in front of private cars and guide them off market as well. Other bicyclists I've talked to are saying the same. We often do this for no-right-on-red to guarantee that the bike lane's right of way is protected. Market street will remain private car free. As for your comments on chesea, they are cartoonishly bad faith. His platform is clear, he won't be ignoring crime, he will be focusing on evidence based solutions. He continues to explain his reasoning behinds his decisions with evidence and continues to get flack from the police union and their lackeys that boils down to "commie LIKES CRIMINALS IN YOUR BACKYARD!!!"

tyre 7y ago
I don't think it's in bad faith to say Chesa wants less policing. He has repeatedly said so. His position is that more policing doesn't actually make us safer in the long term because it draws more people into the prison system, which can permanently derail someone's life. Other people feel that not enforcing "quality of life" crimes a) makes life worse for residents (there's a reason we have those laws in the first place, and it's not solely racially based) b) could snowball into worse crimes. His election is the people of SF trying something new, and that new thing is focusing the attention of the police force elsewhere.
- komali2 7y ago
  I'm not really seeing anything on his platform about not persecuting quality of life crimes. An entire page is devoted to his plan for policing car break ins, for example. I do see a section about drawing the court's attention away from misdemeanors so they can focus on felonies.
drdeadringer 7y ago
I am not understanding something. How does a bicyclist guide a car driver?
- vpribish 7y ago
  point and speak?
  - drdeadringer 7y ago
    That can be for anybody to anybody. Is there something special or specific about bicyclists an/or drivers in San Francisco? Is one or the other especially aggressive or poorly skilled?
    - MiroF 7y ago
      Yes to both, drivers flaunting the car-free restriction are generally poorly skilled and cyclists on Market are generally quite aggressive.
    - komali2 7y ago
      I do it by riding slowly in front of them and pointing. Their options are to try to swerve left around me and get hit by a bus, jump the curb, or run me over. I've not tried it in SF, this is me speaking of my experience in Houston. In SF I'll block cars from making an illegal right by simply standing in front of them.
supernova87a 7y ago
I look forward to seeing whether the traffic behavior lasts and to what extent policing will enforce it. On Boudin, you must be a bit innocent to think that a DA's priorities and stated goals of moving away from incarceration will not flow down to an understanding among police that they are being told to "look the other way" and that their efforts to arrest lawbreakers (their primary tool) are being made hollow and pointless by lack of follow through on the prosecution end. "...Boudin said he will end cash bail and “tough-on-crime” sentencing enhancements, launch a unit to consider the immigration consequences of prosecutions and stop filing cases stemming from “illegal searches” after a minor traffic violation." -- https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/citys-new-progressive-da-chesa-boudin-takes-office-vows-to-immediately-change-the-system/ https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/citys-new-progressive-da-che... Immigration consequences of prosecutions -- just what do you think this means? People not getting prosecuted. I don't understand why uber-liberal thinking desires not to have our laws enforced.
- komali2 7y ago
  See my reply to your nearly identical comment above https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22195382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22195382 > I don't understand why uber-liberal thinking desires not to have our laws enforced. I don't understand where you're getting this strawman from. Which party is at this very moment attempting to enforce rule of law for the executive branch?

tyre 7y ago

I don't think it's in bad faith to say Chesa wants less policing. He has repeatedly said so. His position is that more policing doesn't actually make us safer in the long term because it draws more people into the prison system, which can permanently derail someone's life. Other people feel that not enforcing "quality of life" crimes a) makes life worse for residents (there's a reason we have those laws in the first place, and it's not solely racially based) b) could snowball into worse crimes. His election is the people of SF trying something new, and that new thing is focusing the attention of the police force elsewhere.

komali2 7y ago
I'm not really seeing anything on his platform about not persecuting quality of life crimes. An entire page is devoted to his plan for policing car break ins, for example. I do see a section about drawing the court's attention away from misdemeanors so they can focus on felonies.

drdeadringer 7y ago

I am not understanding something. How does a bicyclist guide a car driver?

vpribish 7y ago
point and speak?
- drdeadringer 7y ago
  That can be for anybody to anybody. Is there something special or specific about bicyclists an/or drivers in San Francisco? Is one or the other especially aggressive or poorly skilled?
  - MiroF 7y ago
    Yes to both, drivers flaunting the car-free restriction are generally poorly skilled and cyclists on Market are generally quite aggressive.
  - komali2 7y ago
    I do it by riding slowly in front of them and pointing. Their options are to try to swerve left around me and get hit by a bus, jump the curb, or run me over. I've not tried it in SF, this is me speaking of my experience in Houston. In SF I'll block cars from making an illegal right by simply standing in front of them.

supernova87a 7y ago

I look forward to seeing whether the traffic behavior lasts and to what extent policing will enforce it. On Boudin, you must be a bit innocent to think that a DA's priorities and stated goals of moving away from incarceration will not flow down to an understanding among police that they are being told to "look the other way" and that their efforts to arrest lawbreakers (their primary tool) are being made hollow and pointless by lack of follow through on the prosecution end. "...Boudin said he will end cash bail and “tough-on-crime” sentencing enhancements, launch a unit to consider the immigration consequences of prosecutions and stop filing cases stemming from “illegal searches” after a minor traffic violation." -- https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/citys-new-progressive-da-chesa-boudin-takes-office-vows-to-immediately-change-the-system/ https://www.sfexaminer.com/news/citys-new-progressive-da-che... Immigration consequences of prosecutions -- just what do you think this means? People not getting prosecuted. I don't understand why uber-liberal thinking desires not to have our laws enforced.

komali2 7y ago
See my reply to your nearly identical comment above https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22195382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22195382 > I don't understand why uber-liberal thinking desires not to have our laws enforced. I don't understand where you're getting this strawman from. Which party is at this very moment attempting to enforce rule of law for the executive branch?