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For my fellow HNers, this is "private cloud" in the meaning of Owncloud, not of Openstack.

choward 7y ago
I hear about Nextcloud a lot more than I hear about Owncloud. Does anyone know why this project uses Owncloud instead of Nextcloud?
- crashbunny 7y ago
  This project started before Nextcloud existed, I don't know why it hasn't switched, though.
  - nemoniac 7y ago
    Also Nextcloud puts a LOT more effort into publicity than Owncloud.
  - AdmiralAsshat 7y ago
    NextCloud was started as a fork of OwnCloud by a bunch of OwnCloud devs that were unhappy with the direction the product was taking. You can think of it in much the same way as OpenOffice vs LibreOffice: devs fork to make a new product, the "original" product stagnates and is mostly used for rent-seeking. The downside of both is that, to my ears, both "OpenOffice" and "OwnCloud" better signify to outsiders what the product accomplishes, while "LibreOffice" and "NextCloud" really don't, unless you're already familiar with the product or product history.
- judge2020 7y ago
  Based on how long this project has existed, I suspect they chose owncloud before nextcloud was forked and changing it hasn't happened/some people don't want to change their already working installations.
- deleted 7y ago
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- Tepix 7y ago
  I think there's an open issue for the switch. Just need a good pull request by a volunteer...
- gramakri 7y ago
  For some history: ownCloud is a very old stable product. 2-3 years back it got forked into Nexcloud because the founder of ownCloud had some disagreement about ownCloud's direction. Both the products are backed by companies and both are doing quite well. I would say Nextcloud goes more and more into expanding it's use case and thus makes it product more extensible via plugins. This can be good or bad depending on how you look at it. Plugins go unmaintained/incompatible over time and are a constant source of pain when upgrading. Wordpress gets away with this because it has a massive community. ownCloud on the other hand has decided to double down on it's roots of file sharing/syncing. I heard they rewrote their stack from PHP to Go now and the frontend is now React.

I hear about Nextcloud a lot more than I hear about Owncloud. Does anyone know why this project uses Owncloud instead of Nextcloud?

crashbunny 7y ago
This project started before Nextcloud existed, I don't know why it hasn't switched, though.
- nemoniac 7y ago
  Also Nextcloud puts a LOT more effort into publicity than Owncloud.
- AdmiralAsshat 7y ago
  NextCloud was started as a fork of OwnCloud by a bunch of OwnCloud devs that were unhappy with the direction the product was taking. You can think of it in much the same way as OpenOffice vs LibreOffice: devs fork to make a new product, the "original" product stagnates and is mostly used for rent-seeking. The downside of both is that, to my ears, both "OpenOffice" and "OwnCloud" better signify to outsiders what the product accomplishes, while "LibreOffice" and "NextCloud" really don't, unless you're already familiar with the product or product history.
judge2020 7y ago
Based on how long this project has existed, I suspect they chose owncloud before nextcloud was forked and changing it hasn't happened/some people don't want to change their already working installations.
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Tepix 7y ago
I think there's an open issue for the switch. Just need a good pull request by a volunteer...
gramakri 7y ago
For some history: ownCloud is a very old stable product. 2-3 years back it got forked into Nexcloud because the founder of ownCloud had some disagreement about ownCloud's direction. Both the products are backed by companies and both are doing quite well. I would say Nextcloud goes more and more into expanding it's use case and thus makes it product more extensible via plugins. This can be good or bad depending on how you look at it. Plugins go unmaintained/incompatible over time and are a constant source of pain when upgrading. Wordpress gets away with this because it has a massive community. ownCloud on the other hand has decided to double down on it's roots of file sharing/syncing. I heard they rewrote their stack from PHP to Go now and the frontend is now React.