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Nicotine is different, it's arguably the most addictive drug and is incredibly hard to kick. No one should ever try nicotine, even if plenty of people, myself i

Nicotine is different, it's arguably the most addictive drug and is incredibly hard to kick. No one should ever try nicotine, even if plenty of people, myself included, have tried and gotten out unscathed. The fact is trying nicotine is a really bad risk, if you do get hooked it's a massive burden. Alcohol or weed or caffeine, some of the other most common drugs, are all less deadly and less addictive

kristofferR 7y ago
That's incredibly wrong. You don't see people ruining their lives from nicotine consumption through snus, chewing gum and non-adulterated vaping (smoking≠nicotine consumption), but plenty of people ruin their lives and the lives around them due to alcohol. Nicotine can be just as harmless as caffeine. Personally I don't find nicotine very addictive at all, but even if it were super addictive it's all about how you consume it. [1] Nobody cares about how many people are addicted to caffeine, because the main consumption method of caffeine is pretty safe (coffee). Caffeine is actually mixed with meth in ya ba (popular in Thailand) [2], but that doesn't mean that caffeine ruins lives. When you say that nicotine is deadly you're conflating the drug with something completely separate. It's sort of like saying that air is deadly, because it could kill you if you inject a lot of it into your veins. [1] https://www.gwern.net/Nicotine https://www.gwern.net/Nicotine [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ya_ba https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ya_ba
- rwmurrayVT 7y ago
  I'm so thankful I quit smoking and switched to snus. The health risks are substantially more tolerable for me. I could smoke an entire pack of cigarettes in a single day for a cost of $6. I use maybe half of a package of snus every day and it costs me $3. At this point I'm just happy I can breathe properly.
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sunnytimes 7y ago
I quit smoking 20 years ago and i still get nic fits when people light up around me. its crazy addictive and takes will-power to quit. my friend is trying to quit and i hope he does , his health is sub-par.
daxorid 7y ago
This is highly individualistic. I can smoke a cigarette or cigar socially, periodically, have done so for years, and never experience a craving. However, alcohol calls to me like Odysseus's sirens. I have friends who are precisely the opposite: hopelessly jonesing for cigarettes, but have no problem grabbing a few beers a month with friends. This is not merely anecdata - individual susceptibility has been documented in the literature, as well. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171010124112.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171010124112.h...

kristofferR 7y ago

That's incredibly wrong. You don't see people ruining their lives from nicotine consumption through snus, chewing gum and non-adulterated vaping (smoking≠nicotine consumption), but plenty of people ruin their lives and the lives around them due to alcohol. Nicotine can be just as harmless as caffeine. Personally I don't find nicotine very addictive at all, but even if it were super addictive it's all about how you consume it. [1] Nobody cares about how many people are addicted to caffeine, because the main consumption method of caffeine is pretty safe (coffee). Caffeine is actually mixed with meth in ya ba (popular in Thailand) [2], but that doesn't mean that caffeine ruins lives. When you say that nicotine is deadly you're conflating the drug with something completely separate. It's sort of like saying that air is deadly, because it could kill you if you inject a lot of it into your veins. [1] https://www.gwern.net/Nicotine https://www.gwern.net/Nicotine [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ya_ba https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ya_ba

rwmurrayVT 7y ago
I'm so thankful I quit smoking and switched to snus. The health risks are substantially more tolerable for me. I could smoke an entire pack of cigarettes in a single day for a cost of $6. I use maybe half of a package of snus every day and it costs me $3. At this point I'm just happy I can breathe properly.
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sunnytimes 7y ago

I quit smoking 20 years ago and i still get nic fits when people light up around me. its crazy addictive and takes will-power to quit. my friend is trying to quit and i hope he does , his health is sub-par.

daxorid 7y ago

This is highly individualistic. I can smoke a cigarette or cigar socially, periodically, have done so for years, and never experience a craving. However, alcohol calls to me like Odysseus's sirens. I have friends who are precisely the opposite: hopelessly jonesing for cigarettes, but have no problem grabbing a few beers a month with friends. This is not merely anecdata - individual susceptibility has been documented in the literature, as well. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171010124112.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/10/171010124112.h...