> What cloud advocates always say is that the $50k monthly will save you money from not needing to hire a team to manage it for you, and that over the course of

> What cloud advocates always say is that the $50k monthly will save you money from not needing to hire a team to manage it for you, and that over the course of 10+ years you will be ahead. Is that true in anyone's experience? Every once in a while somebody posts about their competing bare-metal system and it looks like a lot of people have managed to cut their server costs by 99% (based on the numbers they post) by avoiding the cloud as a service Too many weasel words.