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I guess us developers who are staying within a single IDE are not doing "real work". Also what about people doing CAD, Data Science etc. they also almost alway

I guess us developers who are staying within a single IDE are not doing "real work". Also what about people doing CAD, Data Science etc. they also almost always stay within one app.

js8 7y ago
> I guess us developers who are staying within a single IDE Are you? Apart from IDE, I also run a version control system, a build system, a CI/CD system, a language runtime.. These are all from different vendors.
- jrockway 7y ago
  "UNIX is my IDE."
  - kstrauser 7y ago
    This, but unironically.
    - jrockway 7y ago
      It is kind of a shame that in the day and age of containers we can't just have Linux as an "app" on our iPads. Instead people are forced to write a worse version of everything and bundle it together as an app. I kind of appreciate Apple's approach to simplicity. I use an iPad because I don't want to maintain another computer; syncing configuration, updating packages, etc. But it basically means that I use it as a "dumb terminal" when I hear it has a surprisingly fast processor. Seems like a waste.
      - samatman 7y ago
        You can, iSh is a container of Alpine Linux. I admittedly don't do much of anything with it, but it's neat to have.
        jrockway 7y ago
        Neat, I didn't know about that. I wonder why they emulate x86 instead of targeting ARM though.
        dTal 7y ago
        It doesn't make much difference, since either way they can't run native code - iOS makes this virtually impossible. More in depth discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18425106 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18425106
- threeseed 7y ago
  I can commit code, build projects and deploy work all through my IDE. It's actually why they call it IDE because it's an integrated development environment.
- deleted 7y ago
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- pjmlp 7y ago
  It is called an Integrated Development Environment for a reason.
rjsw 7y ago
Most source code is portable to a different IDE if you wanted. I work on open standards for CAD to allow portability of that and am starting to apply this to data science too.
schwartzworld 7y ago
it takes a tremendous amount of configuration to stay in your ide 100% of the time. I refuse to believe you never have to copy paste from another app into the IDE.
- threeseed 7y ago
  It takes about 5 minutes to configure an IDE. Add Git credentials, importing a project takes care of the setup and build and you can create new Run tasks in most IDEs for calling a different part of your build file e.g. deploy or test. And I occasionally copy/paste from a browser. But you can do that just fine on an iPad or iPhone.
  - p1necone 7y ago
    For small solo dev projects sure. I've never seen a large software company that had everything running inside an IDE though.
- pjmlp 7y ago
  Yeah, opening the settings panel is such an effort. /s

I guess us developers who are staying within a single IDE are not doing "real work". Also what about people doing CAD, Data Science etc. they also almost always stay within one app.

js8 7y ago

> I guess us developers who are staying within a single IDE Are you? Apart from IDE, I also run a version control system, a build system, a CI/CD system, a language runtime.. These are all from different vendors.

jrockway 7y ago
"UNIX is my IDE."
- kstrauser 7y ago
  This, but unironically.
  - jrockway 7y ago
    It is kind of a shame that in the day and age of containers we can't just have Linux as an "app" on our iPads. Instead people are forced to write a worse version of everything and bundle it together as an app. I kind of appreciate Apple's approach to simplicity. I use an iPad because I don't want to maintain another computer; syncing configuration, updating packages, etc. But it basically means that I use it as a "dumb terminal" when I hear it has a surprisingly fast processor. Seems like a waste.
    - samatman 7y ago
      You can, iSh is a container of Alpine Linux. I admittedly don't do much of anything with it, but it's neat to have.
      - jrockway 7y ago
        Neat, I didn't know about that. I wonder why they emulate x86 instead of targeting ARM though.
        dTal 7y ago
        It doesn't make much difference, since either way they can't run native code - iOS makes this virtually impossible. More in depth discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18425106 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18425106
threeseed 7y ago
I can commit code, build projects and deploy work all through my IDE. It's actually why they call it IDE because it's an integrated development environment.
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pjmlp 7y ago
It is called an Integrated Development Environment for a reason.

rjsw 7y ago

Most source code is portable to a different IDE if you wanted. I work on open standards for CAD to allow portability of that and am starting to apply this to data science too.

schwartzworld 7y ago

it takes a tremendous amount of configuration to stay in your ide 100% of the time. I refuse to believe you never have to copy paste from another app into the IDE.

threeseed 7y ago
It takes about 5 minutes to configure an IDE. Add Git credentials, importing a project takes care of the setup and build and you can create new Run tasks in most IDEs for calling a different part of your build file e.g. deploy or test. And I occasionally copy/paste from a browser. But you can do that just fine on an iPad or iPhone.
- p1necone 7y ago
  For small solo dev projects sure. I've never seen a large software company that had everything running inside an IDE though.
pjmlp 7y ago
Yeah, opening the settings panel is such an effort. /s