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low quality of tooling in mobile has been a reality forever and the vendors are not only unwilling to change, they've doubled down on poo-flavored buildsystems

low quality of tooling in mobile has been a reality forever and the vendors are not only unwilling to change, they've doubled down on poo-flavored buildsystems that are impossible for the community to fix this stuff is life or death, and also impossible without giving up on native: > React Native on both iOS and Android and shares 95% of the same code > less crashes on iOS than our native iOS app > an Android version launched > team composed of mobile + non-mobile developers. (impossible on native because of the multi-day process required to build an ios app for the first time) > The team also came up with this cool way to instantly test work-in-progress pull requests. You simply scan a QR code from an automated Github comment on your phone and the JavaScript bundle is updated in your app code updating is illegal on the app store, but it's hard to kick out shopify. this is a shot across the bow

trevyn 7y ago
>code updating is illegal on the app store This is not true, the restriction is to “download, install, or execute code which introduces or changes features or functionality of the app.” (And, of course, internal users & builds can do whatever they want.)
tannedNerd 7y ago
"(impossible on native because of the multi-day process required to build an ios app for the first time)" What??? how is it multiple days to build an app for the first time? It takes minutes and if you are being pedantic by including App Store review it tends to be under 24 hours for new apps and under 6 hours for app updates now. Plus you can distribute to your own team instantly through TestFlight.
- awinter-py 7y ago
  installing the right version of xcode & getting required libraries -- my experience may have been particularly bad because of the ios 13 / swift 5.1 release, but the fact that these tool versions are linked to the xcode version is the root cause here
  - kerbs 7y ago
    Devils Advocate: Fiddling with React Native tooling on day 0 is just as terrible. I may argue it's worse.

trevyn 7y ago

>code updating is illegal on the app store This is not true, the restriction is to “download, install, or execute code which introduces or changes features or functionality of the app.” (And, of course, internal users & builds can do whatever they want.)

tannedNerd 7y ago

"(impossible on native because of the multi-day process required to build an ios app for the first time)" What??? how is it multiple days to build an app for the first time? It takes minutes and if you are being pedantic by including App Store review it tends to be under 24 hours for new apps and under 6 hours for app updates now. Plus you can distribute to your own team instantly through TestFlight.

awinter-py 7y ago
installing the right version of xcode & getting required libraries -- my experience may have been particularly bad because of the ios 13 / swift 5.1 release, but the fact that these tool versions are linked to the xcode version is the root cause here
- kerbs 7y ago
  Devils Advocate: Fiddling with React Native tooling on day 0 is just as terrible. I may argue it's worse.