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You say that like writing plugins is hard or undesirable.

by npo9 7y ago

harrisonjackson 7y ago
Exactly - this is native code that would need to be written either way, right?
freehunter 7y ago
That's what I don't understand when people criticize frameworks like React Native... "I didn't like that I had to build 15% of the app in native code, so I ditched RN and now have to write 100% of the app in native code, but twice and in two different languages"?
- tilolebo 7y ago
  React Native isn't the only abstraction out there. You could use Flutter, Ionic or similar. Or do they have the same issue?
  - anon9001 7y ago
    They all have the same issues, but RN has the largest community.
    - davidwparker 7y ago
      Flutter has a larger number of "star" on Github. It also has more issues and more pull requests. React Native has 3x more followers on Reddit. So I guess it depends on your definition of community.
      - s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
        Flutter is only in beta for desktop and web. And it's emulated UI, not true native UI. RN is ready now and today for all platforms, including Window via react-native-windows. Microsoft is choosing React, I wouldn't go w/ Flutter. Why would you choose a Google only language and framework... unless you like rewriting code when it dies. Also, w/ React you can use TypeScript or JS, you don't have to learn a new language. From my perspective, it looks like Google pays a lot of money for these tech articles and stars, it's not a really good way to look at things. There's always a Flutter campaign going on.
        greatjack613 7y ago
        As much as I hate that google kills stuff often, the above comment is missing the fact that facebook also kills stuff often, they just never had any adoption in the first place so you don't notice
        s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
        But React is more open source and flexible. Microsoft has embraced React and RN via their react-native-windows project, they are currently rewriting it from C# to C++, so it must be important. They use it for Skype and other products. Google isn't built on Flutter, not the important parts. Facebook has been building their stuff w/ React. They have over 10,000 components, I doubt they'll abandon it. Even if they do, React is much more flexible and open, it doesn't have a compiler or language tied to it either. If Google drops Flutter, you're fucked.
        therockhead 7y ago
        Does RN work on macOS ?
- wdb 7y ago
  Well, React Native always gets a bit advertised as you don't need to know any native programming knowledge but that's not true. That's what I tried to say.
- greatjack613 7y ago
  It is a heck lot easier to stick to 1 language with no plugins, then 3 languages with plugins for every native feature
seanalltogether 7y ago
> JavaScript developers are cheap to hire, and they don't need to know any objc/swift/java/kotlin to build the product. OP is pretty much saying that.

You say that like writing plugins is hard or undesirable.

by npo9 7y ago

You say that like writing plugins is hard or undesirable.

harrisonjackson 7y ago

Exactly - this is native code that would need to be written either way, right?

freehunter 7y ago

That's what I don't understand when people criticize frameworks like React Native... "I didn't like that I had to build 15% of the app in native code, so I ditched RN and now have to write 100% of the app in native code, but twice and in two different languages"?

tilolebo 7y ago
React Native isn't the only abstraction out there. You could use Flutter, Ionic or similar. Or do they have the same issue?
- anon9001 7y ago
  They all have the same issues, but RN has the largest community.
  - davidwparker 7y ago
    Flutter has a larger number of "star" on Github. It also has more issues and more pull requests. React Native has 3x more followers on Reddit. So I guess it depends on your definition of community.
    - s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
      Flutter is only in beta for desktop and web. And it's emulated UI, not true native UI. RN is ready now and today for all platforms, including Window via react-native-windows. Microsoft is choosing React, I wouldn't go w/ Flutter. Why would you choose a Google only language and framework... unless you like rewriting code when it dies. Also, w/ React you can use TypeScript or JS, you don't have to learn a new language. From my perspective, it looks like Google pays a lot of money for these tech articles and stars, it's not a really good way to look at things. There's always a Flutter campaign going on.
      - greatjack613 7y ago
        As much as I hate that google kills stuff often, the above comment is missing the fact that facebook also kills stuff often, they just never had any adoption in the first place so you don't notice
        s_y_n_t_a_x 7y ago
        But React is more open source and flexible. Microsoft has embraced React and RN via their react-native-windows project, they are currently rewriting it from C# to C++, so it must be important. They use it for Skype and other products. Google isn't built on Flutter, not the important parts. Facebook has been building their stuff w/ React. They have over 10,000 components, I doubt they'll abandon it. Even if they do, React is much more flexible and open, it doesn't have a compiler or language tied to it either. If Google drops Flutter, you're fucked.
      - therockhead 7y ago
        Does RN work on macOS ?
wdb 7y ago
Well, React Native always gets a bit advertised as you don't need to know any native programming knowledge but that's not true. That's what I tried to say.
greatjack613 7y ago
It is a heck lot easier to stick to 1 language with no plugins, then 3 languages with plugins for every native feature

seanalltogether 7y ago

> JavaScript developers are cheap to hire, and they don't need to know any objc/swift/java/kotlin to build the product. OP is pretty much saying that.