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You accuse me of propaganda, but I referenced widely-available information to support my point. The support for your point is basically, "US friend, China enemy

You accuse me of propaganda, but I referenced widely-available information to support my point. The support for your point is basically, "US friend, China enemy" to which all I can say is: which of our positions sounds more like propaganda? Do the actions of the US which I referenced, which are widely known and documented, look like the actions of a friend/ally? I think the real crux of our disagreement comes down to this: "If the NSA wants to stalk a UK citizen all they have to do is ask." You seem to view this as an acceptable outcome. I don't, because I'm not a nationalist: I'm on the side of the average people, no matter where those people are from, and I don't trust any government to spy on people. The Chinese government is bad, yes. But let's not pretend the US/UK governments are innocent, or that we have to take the side of the US/UK governments to be against China. I'm not on the side of any government: I'm on the side of the people.

badrabbit 7y ago
No, you are hitting propaganda points again. It's not US friend,china enemy. It's US has less incentive a demonstrated (evidencial) desire to cause you harm than the CCP. Ask hong kongers or uyighurs the diffrence between Nazis and the CCP. And show me any othet people that can make the same comparisom for the US right now then show me how the threat the US poses to those people can also apply to the UK. You're literally a few years away from a possible WW3 and you think the nazis and americans are all just as bad and nazis are a bit cheaper so ee should trust them more. > The Chinese government is bad, yes. How about you leave it right there and stop? You don't like americans? Well the european ericcsson competes with huawei in this space with european factories!