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>Already you can "e-sign" all sorts of legal documents with no verification of your identity whatsoever. Well, not really. If you e-sign a document, it's not l
by aguyfromnb 7y ago
>Already you can "e-sign" all sorts of legal documents with no verification of your identity whatsoever.
Well, not really. If you e-sign a document, it's not like there's no traceable provenance to the signature to establish your identity. To what email were the documents delivered? What computer/device were they signed from? At what location were they signed?
Sure, all of those things can be "faked", but they really only matter if the signature is disputed. In this case, that's happened, and it will be quite easy to prove he didn't sign the documents.
>This fake signature is just an acknowledgement that signatures are useless
This is a bit of a reach. Signatures are not meant to be a secure identity measure. If the story is as explained in the Tweet, it's fraud, and that fraud can be proven thanks to what was or was not actually signed. The story doens't end with the insurance company pointing to the signature and saying, "Look, there it is".
- gruez 7y ago> The story doens't end with the insurance company pointing to the signature and saying, "Look, there it is". Was it? The tweet seems to be 8 months ago. This should have been resolved. Was there an update posted?
- msla 7y ago"It isn't meant to be secure!" is ahistorical, given the difficulty of forging someone's signature by hand in a way it would fool a professional questioned documents examiner, or even someone who knew they were looking for a forgery and had a legitimate signature to hand. Just because technology has overtaken signatures and everyone's politely declined to notice doesn't mean they weren't intended to be secure at one point.
- ljm 7y agoAt least in Europe, when you 'e-sign' a document, you're doing it with the cryptographically secure identity cert embedded in your ID card. You haven't 'e-signed' anything if you haven't used your ID for it. In some countries this is a requirement for almost all docs, including signing a mobile phone contract, or opening a bank account. You'll have the same if you get a fancy Estonian e-residence.
- mattr47 7y agoIn the US Military a lot of the finance, personnel action and evaluations are all e-signed. This requires your CAC (I'd card with embedded crypto) and your PIN. You insert the card into a reader and then type your pin. Document is then e-signed.