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How is China a strategic threat to 'democracy'? China isn't supporting 'color revolutions' of its own kind.

• Brave-Steak 7y ago
  You must be willfully ignorant if you don't see all of China's work to influence Western countries in ways that are favourable to China, despite their despicable track record in ... I don't know, lots of things regarding human rights and individual freedoms. And yeah, yeah. The US isn't perfect either, but I'm not afraid of the US using their influence to take away or undermine democracy in Germany.
  • thiagoharry 7y ago
    Not in Germany, but in Africa, Latin America end Middle East, US has a history of undermining democracy.
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  • gdy 7y ago
    And what have actually China done 'to take away or undermine the democracy' in Western countries?
• beejaw 7y ago
  Pressuring western companies into not saying what the CCP doesn't like, for starters. A totalitarian regime that is set to rewrite history, seeking to kill history and therefore human tought everywhere, not just at home, and which apparently requires a bloody nose to reconsider.
• sdinsn 7y ago
  China has stated that Western ideals like democracy are incompatible with their vision of the world. They have stated they will oppose democracy, everywhere, especially on other countries behalf.
  • gdy 7y ago
    [Citation needed]
    • qtplatypus 7y ago
      This seems to support the idea that the CCP is opposed to democracy https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-politics-xi-idUSBREA3107S20140402 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-politics-xi-idUSBRE...
      • gdy 7y ago
        It doesn't say anything supporting "they have stated they will oppose democracy, everywhere, especially on other countries behalf".
        • qtplatypus 7y ago
          Further support for this can be found at. https://qz.com/1225347/xi-jinping-says-chinas-one-party-authoritarian-system-can-be-a-model-for-the-world/ https://qz.com/1225347/xi-jinping-says-chinas-one-party-auth...
          • gdy 7y ago
            It cannot provide 'further support' because the previous link doesn't provide any support at all. This new link doesn't support that statement either. Moreover, I've checked one quotation and it turned out to be taken completely out of context. I invite you to provide specific facts that support the statement you are defending.
    • sdinsn 7y ago
      Source: a great number of President Xi's speeches. A quick google search will get you many hits.
      • gdy 7y ago
• qtplatypus 7y ago
  China has been making illegal donations to Australian politicians and bribing Japanese politicians.
  • gdy 7y ago
    I don't see how it makes China 'a strategic threat'.
    • qtplatypus 7y ago
      It shows that it is actively working to undermine democratic functions.
      • gdy 7y ago
        No, it doesn't. Politicians are bribed all the time, mostly by the citizens of their country.
        • qtplatypus 7y ago
          Not in western democracies. Australia and Japan are the 12 and 20th least corrupt in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index#2011 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index#2...
          • dragonwriter 7y ago
            That measure explicitly measures perception of corruption, not actual corruption. A low rating could just mwan high corruption covered by effective propaganda directed at the masses that lack the means to meaningfully engage in corruption.
          • gdy 7y ago
            But politicians are among most corrupt public servants in Australia. "The phenomenon has also been studied by the Australian National University, which produced a report called Perceptions of Corruption and Ethical Conduct (2012), which concluded: "there is a widespread perception that corruption in Australia has increased" and that "the media, trade unions and political parties were seen as Australia's most corrupt institutions." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Australia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Australia