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> 1/3rd of people is more than statistically significant, so yes, it does support that conclusion. It decidedly does not support the conclusion. The percent of

> 1/3rd of people is more than statistically significant, so yes, it does support that conclusion. It decidedly does not support the conclusion. The percent of the population studies were those who had filed a lawsuit about solitary confinement. This is the definition of a biased sample.

shakna 7y ago
> Anything other than solitary is torture. This point is completely proven to be false by the fact that people are having their QOL indicators trashed.
- monoideism 7y ago
  1) You're replying to the wrong comment. 2) Your basis for "This point is completely proven to be false by the fact that people are having their QOL indicators trashed" is what? The statistically-biased study you posted?
  - shakna 7y ago
    > 1) You're replying to the wrong comment. Are you not in this thread? [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22176652 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22176652 > 2) Your basis for "This point is completely proven to be false by the fact that people are having their QOL indicators trashed" is what? The statistically-biased study you posted? You didn't like that study? And thus refuse to have any other conversation? Fine. Lets have some more. [0] https://www.themarshallproject.org/documents/3234404-Aiming-to-Reduce-Time-In-Cell-Correctional https://www.themarshallproject.org/documents/3234404-Aiming-... - The government knows it is harmful, and is tracking and pushing for reduction of its use. [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2752350 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... - It increases mortality after release. (Study where N=229,297). [2] https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/us1012ForUpload.pdf https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/us1012ForUpl... - It stunts the growth of juveniles and leads to a variety of mental health problems. [3] http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/appsych/opus/issues/2015/spring/corcoran http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/appsych/opus/issues/2015/spring/co... - Here's an earlier study that also covers the hyptension systems already mentioned. [4] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/cbm.627 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/cbm.627 - In juveniles, it increases recidivism, and causes mental and physical health problems. QoL indicators from all studies are showing problems. Solitary Confinement is above the threshold where it can be safely used against any one person.
    - monoideism 7y ago
      > And thus refuse to have any other conversation? Where are you getting this stuff? I never said anything about refusing to have any other conversation. And you responded to the wrong comment above. You quoted another commenter and responded to it in a reply to me. That's not how threaded forums work. Are you confusing me with other HNer again here?
      - shakna 7y ago
        > Are you confusing me with other HNer again here? Nope. > You quoted another commenter and responded to it in a reply to me. That's not how threaded forums work. That's exactly how thread topics work. That's the context of the conversation.

shakna 7y ago

> Anything other than solitary is torture. This point is completely proven to be false by the fact that people are having their QOL indicators trashed.

monoideism 7y ago
1) You're replying to the wrong comment. 2) Your basis for "This point is completely proven to be false by the fact that people are having their QOL indicators trashed" is what? The statistically-biased study you posted?
- shakna 7y ago
  > 1) You're replying to the wrong comment. Are you not in this thread? [0] [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22176652 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22176652 > 2) Your basis for "This point is completely proven to be false by the fact that people are having their QOL indicators trashed" is what? The statistically-biased study you posted? You didn't like that study? And thus refuse to have any other conversation? Fine. Lets have some more. [0] https://www.themarshallproject.org/documents/3234404-Aiming-to-Reduce-Time-In-Cell-Correctional https://www.themarshallproject.org/documents/3234404-Aiming-... - The government knows it is harmful, and is tracking and pushing for reduction of its use. [1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2752350 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle... - It increases mortality after release. (Study where N=229,297). [2] https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/us1012ForUpload.pdf https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/us1012ForUpl... - It stunts the growth of juveniles and leads to a variety of mental health problems. [3] http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/appsych/opus/issues/2015/spring/corcoran http://steinhardt.nyu.edu/appsych/opus/issues/2015/spring/co... - Here's an earlier study that also covers the hyptension systems already mentioned. [4] https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/cbm.627 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/cbm.627 - In juveniles, it increases recidivism, and causes mental and physical health problems. QoL indicators from all studies are showing problems. Solitary Confinement is above the threshold where it can be safely used against any one person.
  - monoideism 7y ago
    > And thus refuse to have any other conversation? Where are you getting this stuff? I never said anything about refusing to have any other conversation. And you responded to the wrong comment above. You quoted another commenter and responded to it in a reply to me. That's not how threaded forums work. Are you confusing me with other HNer again here?
    - shakna 7y ago
      > Are you confusing me with other HNer again here? Nope. > You quoted another commenter and responded to it in a reply to me. That's not how threaded forums work. That's exactly how thread topics work. That's the context of the conversation.